Am I the only one nostalgic for old iOS? I remember how everyone was so amazed at how iOS 6 looked
Old ios updates were significant. I don't know when it changed, but now there is hardly a difference in versions.
Sounds like OSX/macOS.
Do we want huge changes every few years over minor tweaks and improvements? Like the basics of most phone OS are pretty functional and standard at this stage.
Yea android was the same, those huge changes were the result of an emerging tech that we (the population at large) hadn't really figured out yet.
Smartphones are entering maturity so it makes sense to me that changes become smaller and move slower, any given update pushed out affects a billion people.
Maybe now we’ll have the choice of phones that last longer, are supported longer.
Apple has been pretty good about this and generally end support on significant architectural changes, but if the change is a faster processor and new sensor, they ought to be able to support hardware longer without more effort
iOS 7 kinda sucked tho
Wait until you hear about xbox skipping 1 to 359!
They did get back to try and redo it but then quit after 1!
I dont think the second generation of xbox was callled xbox 2.510412868 E+778
Nah, they just used the entire number.
Big companies are doing this so they can sell their product on the Chinese market more easily. The number 9 is associated with death in China.
That's 4, not 9. The words for death and 4 in Cantonese sound similar, I think with only a small tone difference.
Also, in a similar way, 14 is close to "must die," and 24 is close to "easy to die"
Are we discussing Bruce Willis movies now?
Waaait, are ppl still that stupisticious?
🤣 People still believe in talking to imaginary friends with superpowers. Magic numbers are tame by comparison.
Now it talks back with GodGPT. /s (if that's not a thing already..)
I went to the US in 2013 and there were still a lot of hotels (and I think some other places but I'm not sure) that skipped the 13th floor and room number 13
In china, absolutely. Phone numbers, license plates, condo building floors etc. 8 is good and those fetch high price and 4 is avoided. Hell the US is still sometimes avoiding floor 13 in hotels.
There used to be a US highway 666. It was renumbered to 491 back in 2003 due to 666 being associated with the mark of the beast.
When I worked at a restaurant and someone’s order came to $6.66, they would sometimes add or remove items to prevent that order total. Always made me chuckle.
I’m not superstitious. Heck, I’m not even a little stitious.
I’d say Nintendo products or Street Fighter games take the crown for wacky inconsistency.
Fate anime series be like: hold my beer
Microsoft's XBox versioning is even stranger.
Don't get me started on USB
That makes sense.
USB 1,2,3,4 is the standard and relates to the speeds.
USB A, B, C, Micro, Mini refers to the shape.
I wish they'd stuck to what you're describing, it's gone incredibly off the rails since that though
USB 3.2 Gen 2x2
But now it's by speed instead... But there's USB 3 and USB 4 with 20Gbps speed which are both named USB 20 Gbps...
USB 3.0 Gen 1 and 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.2 Gen 1 are 5Gb/s, 3.1 Gen 2 and 3.2 Gen 2 are 10Gb/s and 3.2 Gen 2×2 is 20Gb/s. Then there's Thunderbolt 3 with 40Gb/s or 10Gb/s.
USB4 can be 0.5, 10, 20, 40, 80 or 120Gb/s
Note that it is oficially "USB4" with no space
And don't forget USB4 2.0
Windows has been weird since long before the event the OP mentions though.
Normal up until 3.1, then:
- 95
- 98
- 2000
- ME
- XP
- Vista
- 7 (internally, actually 6.1)
- 8 (internally, actually 6.2)
- 8.1 (internally, actually 6.3 and therefore as significant as 7 -> 8)
Also, the hilarious alleged reason they did it. Not (just) because of the marketing boost associated with version 10, but because they specifically wanted to avoid the number 9 out of backwards compatibility concerns. Some old code would actually detect it's running on "either 95 or 98" by doing a string comparison of the version number returned by the OS, and seeing if it started with '9'.
Rather than risk maybe causing some compatibility problems with an edge case in software from the early '00s, they figured "just skip it entirely".
Ha, urgh... the string checking thing is amusing. That's not even counting that ME was the last DOS based one, and there was NT 3.1, 3.5, and 4, then 2000 was NT 5.0... and XP and everything after that. Then internally XP was NT 5.1, 5.2, and Vista was NT 6. Windows 7? NT 6.1. Windows 8: NT 6.2. Then Windows 10? NT 10,0. Now the latest Windows 11 is uh, 23H2.
those 23H2 feature updates look like (biological) viruses to me
Debian devs: fuck it, next version will be 13.
Windows at least makes sense when you understand the reasoning.
For years websites have been warning people their OS is out of date if it detected they were running Windows 95 or Windows 98.
They did this by pulling the version and displaying the warning "if version = Windows 9*"
So it would have been super embarrassing to have a brand new OS trigger out of date warnings. Skip over Windows 9 and go straight to 10, problem solved.
That should be up to the websites to fix, not Microsoft.
This seems like a made up reason.
It’s absolutely not a made-up reason.
It was a way to get around the fact that Microsoft didn’t use proper version numbers for ages, and it became standard (enough) practice such that MS had to account for it if they didn’t want to break legacy support for a shitload of software that enterprises customers care about.
There's at least one example you can look at, the Jenkins CI project had code like that (if (name.startsWith("windows 9")) {
):
https://issues.jenkins.io/secure/attachment/18777/PlatformDetail
Microsoft, for all their faults, do (or at least did) take backwards compatibility very seriously, and the option of "just make devs fix it" would never fly. Here's a story about how they added special code to Windows 95 to make SimCity's broken code work on it:
Windows 95? No problem. Nice new 32 bit API, but it still ran old 16 bit software perfectly. Microsoft obsessed about this, spending a big chunk of change testing every old program they could find with Windows 95. Jon Ross, who wrote the original version of SimCity for Windows 3.x, told me that he accidentally left a bug in SimCity where he read memory that he had just freed. Yep. It worked fine on Windows 3.x, because the memory never went anywhere. Here’s the amazing part: On beta versions of Windows 95, SimCity wasn’t working in testing. Microsoft tracked down the bug and added specific code to Windows 95 that looks for SimCity. If it finds SimCity running, it runs the memory allocator in a special mode that doesn’t free memory right away. That’s the kind of obsession with backward compatibility that made people willing to upgrade to Windows 95.
video drivers do this nowadays.
its part of the reason your nvidia driver is gigabytes in size (other than the bloat)
Can you imagine? "Microsoft demands all websites update their code for new operating system."
The alternative being "Why websites think your new computer is old."
Microsoft dodged all of that by skipping a version number and the worst question they get asked is "Where did Windows 9 go?"
They even had tshirts that said "Because 7 8 9".
It’s not websites, it was about local apps.
There are a bunch of 20 year old apps designed for Windows XP which would complain that Windows 9 is too old.
How many sites were checking for pre-NT windows versions at all at the time of the release of windows 10?
Enough to make Microsoft skip Windows 9. ;)
Apple's done this with more than just iPhones.
Mac OS didn't do this, but the marketing of version 10 as "OS X" set the stage for everything to come later. With other products, they did it with Final Cut Pro X and QuickTime X
iMovie also did something interesting where they went from marketing by year of release to version 10. Luckily, there was iMovie '09 and iMovie '11 before that, but no 2010 version. So limited confusion.
Red hat Linux has managed to flame out on the cusp of v9 twice too, so maybe $4…
I believe Apple just never made the 9 because that would have confused people. The 8 and the X dropped the same year due to the 10 year anniversary of iPhones so it was a special case.
Chronologically, they'd have to go back to the 9 and then the next phone would be the 11 because the X already exists, so going straight to 11 makes sense to not confuse the masses for me.
iPhone? Nein.
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