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[-] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 months ago

Am I the only one nostalgic for old iOS? I remember how everyone was so amazed at how iOS 6 looked

[-] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Old ios updates were significant. I don't know when it changed, but now there is hardly a difference in versions.

[-] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 0 points 8 months ago

Sounds like OSX/macOS.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago

Do we want huge changes every few years over minor tweaks and improvements? Like the basics of most phone OS are pretty functional and standard at this stage.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Yea android was the same, those huge changes were the result of an emerging tech that we (the population at large) hadn't really figured out yet.

Smartphones are entering maturity so it makes sense to me that changes become smaller and move slower, any given update pushed out affects a billion people.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Maybe now we’ll have the choice of phones that last longer, are supported longer.

Apple has been pretty good about this and generally end support on significant architectural changes, but if the change is a faster processor and new sensor, they ought to be able to support hardware longer without more effort

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[-] onion@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

iOS 7 kinda sucked tho

[-] MTK@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Wait until you hear about xbox skipping 1 to 359!

They did get back to try and redo it but then quit after 1!

[-] scharf_2x40@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I dont think the second generation of xbox was callled xbox 2.510412868 E+778

[-] Dicska@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Nah, they just used the entire number.

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[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Big companies are doing this so they can sell their product on the Chinese market more easily. The number 9 is associated with death in China.

[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

That's 4, not 9. The words for death and 4 in Cantonese sound similar, I think with only a small tone difference.

Also, in a similar way, 14 is close to "must die," and 24 is close to "easy to die"

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Are we discussing Bruce Willis movies now?

[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Waaait, are ppl still that stupisticious?

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

🤣 People still believe in talking to imaginary friends with superpowers. Magic numbers are tame by comparison.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago

Now it talks back with GodGPT. /s (if that's not a thing already..)

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[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I went to the US in 2013 and there were still a lot of hotels (and I think some other places but I'm not sure) that skipped the 13th floor and room number 13

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In china, absolutely. Phone numbers, license plates, condo building floors etc. 8 is good and those fetch high price and 4 is avoided. Hell the US is still sometimes avoiding floor 13 in hotels.

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

There used to be a US highway 666. It was renumbered to 491 back in 2003 due to 666 being associated with the mark of the beast.

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[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

When I worked at a restaurant and someone’s order came to $6.66, they would sometimes add or remove items to prevent that order total. Always made me chuckle.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

I’m not superstitious. Heck, I’m not even a little stitious.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago

I’d say Nintendo products or Street Fighter games take the crown for wacky inconsistency.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fate anime series be like: hold my beer

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Microsoft's XBox versioning is even stranger.

[-] Fisch@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Don't get me started on USB

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago

That makes sense.

USB 1,2,3,4 is the standard and relates to the speeds.

USB A, B, C, Micro, Mini refers to the shape.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I wish they'd stuck to what you're describing, it's gone incredibly off the rails since that though

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

USB 3.2 Gen 2x2

But now it's by speed instead... But there's USB 3 and USB 4 with 20Gbps speed which are both named USB 20 Gbps...

[-] onion@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

USB 3.0 Gen 1 and 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.2 Gen 1 are 5Gb/s, 3.1 Gen 2 and 3.2 Gen 2 are 10Gb/s and 3.2 Gen 2×2 is 20Gb/s. Then there's Thunderbolt 3 with 40Gb/s or 10Gb/s.

USB4 can be 0.5, 10, 20, 40, 80 or 120Gb/s

Note that it is oficially "USB4" with no space

[-] Fisch@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago
[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 8 months ago

Windows has been weird since long before the event the OP mentions though.

Normal up until 3.1, then:

  • 95
  • 98
  • 2000
  • ME
  • XP
  • Vista
  • 7 (internally, actually 6.1)
  • 8 (internally, actually 6.2)
  • 8.1 (internally, actually 6.3 and therefore as significant as 7 -> 8)

Also, the hilarious alleged reason they did it. Not (just) because of the marketing boost associated with version 10, but because they specifically wanted to avoid the number 9 out of backwards compatibility concerns. Some old code would actually detect it's running on "either 95 or 98" by doing a string comparison of the version number returned by the OS, and seeing if it started with '9'.

Rather than risk maybe causing some compatibility problems with an edge case in software from the early '00s, they figured "just skip it entirely".

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Ha, urgh... the string checking thing is amusing. That's not even counting that ME was the last DOS based one, and there was NT 3.1, 3.5, and 4, then 2000 was NT 5.0... and XP and everything after that. Then internally XP was NT 5.1, 5.2, and Vista was NT 6. Windows 7? NT 6.1. Windows 8: NT 6.2. Then Windows 10? NT 10,0. Now the latest Windows 11 is uh, 23H2.

[-] fogstormberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 months ago

those 23H2 feature updates look like (biological) viruses to me

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[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Debian devs: fuck it, next version will be 13.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Windows at least makes sense when you understand the reasoning.

For years websites have been warning people their OS is out of date if it detected they were running Windows 95 or Windows 98.

They did this by pulling the version and displaying the warning "if version = Windows 9*"

So it would have been super embarrassing to have a brand new OS trigger out of date warnings. Skip over Windows 9 and go straight to 10, problem solved.

[-] zewm@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago

That should be up to the websites to fix, not Microsoft.

This seems like a made up reason.

It’s absolutely not a made-up reason.

It was a way to get around the fact that Microsoft didn’t use proper version numbers for ages, and it became standard (enough) practice such that MS had to account for it if they didn’t want to break legacy support for a shitload of software that enterprises customers care about.

[-] m_f@midwest.social 0 points 8 months ago

There's at least one example you can look at, the Jenkins CI project had code like that (if (name.startsWith("windows 9")) {):

https://issues.jenkins.io/secure/attachment/18777/PlatformDetail

Microsoft, for all their faults, do (or at least did) take backwards compatibility very seriously, and the option of "just make devs fix it" would never fly. Here's a story about how they added special code to Windows 95 to make SimCity's broken code work on it:

Windows 95? No problem. Nice new 32 bit API, but it still ran old 16 bit software perfectly. Microsoft obsessed about this, spending a big chunk of change testing every old program they could find with Windows 95. Jon Ross, who wrote the original version of SimCity for Windows 3.x, told me that he accidentally left a bug in SimCity where he read memory that he had just freed. Yep. It worked fine on Windows 3.x, because the memory never went anywhere. Here’s the amazing part: On beta versions of Windows 95, SimCity wasn’t working in testing. Microsoft tracked down the bug and added specific code to Windows 95 that looks for SimCity. If it finds SimCity running, it runs the memory allocator in a special mode that doesn’t free memory right away. That’s the kind of obsession with backward compatibility that made people willing to upgrade to Windows 95.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

video drivers do this nowadays.

its part of the reason your nvidia driver is gigabytes in size (other than the bloat)

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Can you imagine? "Microsoft demands all websites update their code for new operating system."

The alternative being "Why websites think your new computer is old."

Microsoft dodged all of that by skipping a version number and the worst question they get asked is "Where did Windows 9 go?"

They even had tshirts that said "Because 7 8 9".

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago

It’s not websites, it was about local apps.

There are a bunch of 20 year old apps designed for Windows XP which would complain that Windows 9 is too old.

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[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

How many sites were checking for pre-NT windows versions at all at the time of the release of windows 10?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Enough to make Microsoft skip Windows 9. ;)

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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 8 months ago

Apple's done this with more than just iPhones.

Mac OS didn't do this, but the marketing of version 10 as "OS X" set the stage for everything to come later. With other products, they did it with Final Cut Pro X and QuickTime X

iMovie also did something interesting where they went from marketing by year of release to version 10. Luckily, there was iMovie '09 and iMovie '11 before that, but no 2010 version. So limited confusion.

[-] Ddub@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago

Red hat Linux has managed to flame out on the cusp of v9 twice too, so maybe $4…

[-] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 0 points 8 months ago
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[-] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I believe Apple just never made the 9 because that would have confused people. The 8 and the X dropped the same year due to the 10 year anniversary of iPhones so it was a special case.

Chronologically, they'd have to go back to the 9 and then the next phone would be the 11 because the X already exists, so going straight to 11 makes sense to not confuse the masses for me.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

iPhone? Nein.

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