342
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 16 Jan 2024
342 points (96.5% liked)
Fuck Cars
9375 readers
963 users here now
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Can't they just make dumb EVs for now? I mean we don't have to go all out Starks Enterprises with every EV to attract customers. I still need buttons and things i can feel while driving.
Not related to EVs at all. Every new, feature rich car, is like this.
Camera systems for semi-autonomous driving, blind spot warnings, and parking assist. Always on cellular connections for maps, navigation, and roadside assistance. The tech has been in most cars for a decade or more. It's the last 5ish years the manufactures realized they could collect all the data and have another revenue stream.
They must be loving it, charging customers for 5 subscriptions for 1 car, then sending all that users data from using those subscriptions to advertisers for more profit.
ok.
does this issue not affect EVs or something?
All cars. Mostly newer models.
oh okay, so EVs are impacted too?
Not to mention how much cheaper an EV could be if it had manual windows, less software, less microphones, less screens and just overall focused on being a car before being a smart device, status symbol, or entertainment system.
The problem is tech is cheap, especially software. Even moreso when the data you gain is so valuable.
It's like you'll have to go convert like a 2005 ICE car to electric to get a "nice car without tech shit I never asked for".
Eh, the pre-facelift Hyundai Ioniq electric is the last usable EV without a data connection, I'd say. Was built until 2020.
Nice. Noted, if I get an EV one day.
Whoever makes a "remove the bullshit you don't want" service for new cars is going to make a lot of money.