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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If they're gonna walk in the street, I guess I'll drive on the sidewalk. 🤷🏻‍♂️

All for reducing or eliminating cars; but I'm not going to act like this ain't fucking stupid.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 27 points 3 days ago

But there is a sidewalk. I'm also wondering why these people are walking on the street

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

If there were a bunch of cars in the driveways blocking the sidewalk I would agree, or if they had strollers or something with wheels that could get bumpy on the cracks, but since neither of those are true I'm with OOP on this one.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 55 points 4 days ago

I kinda understand him. If I have a sidewalk, I use it, simply because I don't want to fucking get run over by a car. However, the comments are also quite disgusting.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 81 points 4 days ago

Walking on them is literally the entire purpose of sidewalks. I mean its right there in the name. This picture is exactly why - so they're safe from cars and don't obstruct drivers. Your opinion of cars is completely immaterial when determining who is being reasonable in this context.

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[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 58 points 4 days ago

Posts like this are part of the reason why the rest of us don't take you people seriously.

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[-] visnae@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Something Americans don't know about is that streets were shared spaces between pedestrians, cars, bikes, everything. Then cars got a bigger role and pushed everyone else to sidewalks. Then bars and restaurants also wanted part of that space for outdoor serving. Now pedestrians, bikes, bars/restaurants, bus stops, e-scooters and parking spaces, advertising signs, and trees share the side walk, which in turn has become much more narrow because of car lanes..

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I get this sentiment but cars will kill you.

I don't care about whatever argument you have about the existence of cars, stay out of their way.

You might have the right of way, you might have the law on your side, you might fully well be in the right but.

The car wins. You either die or end up with permanent lifelong injuries.

Keep yourself safe above all. Bitch all you want but don't deliberately put yourself at risk to "prove a point" you'll just die or get fucked up for no reason other than pride.

[-] sibannac@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

This lack of self awareness always astounds me. You are in a car, it transports you way faster than your own two legs, it protects you from elements with tons of steel and glass. The same steel that has tons of potential energy. Carless pedestrians are your inconvenience?

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Well, they slow you down and get your car all dented and bloody

[-] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 91 points 4 days ago

I mean, say what you will about cars but the sidewalk is a dedicated lane for pedestrians. Walk on the street, fuck around and find out.

Plus if you’re walking in the road walk against the flow of cars not with. That way if a drunk driver (or just general asshole) comes swerving down the road you can see it and react.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 43 points 4 days ago

I’d like to know why this was downvoted. Walking against the flow of traffic so you can see what’s coming is sensible advice.

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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

my dad always said: walk facing toward traffic, and make eye contact with drivers, so they can be haunted by your face for the rest of their lives if they run you over.

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[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Fuck around and find out is a pretty shitty attitude towards people sharing a street. Is that the excuse you will give a parent after injuring a kid that chased a ball onto the street? It isn't like this is a highway, people have homes on the street. The street is not exclussively for cars, cars just tend to get the most space and priority.

[-] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

Don’t share the street is what I’m getting at. I can’t and won’t share the sidewalk with my car, why should I share the street with pedestrians? The picture in the OP is not a kid running into the street for a sec to get a runaway ball. It’s people walking down the street with a sidewalk mere feet away from them. This isn’t the 1800s where there is no sidewalk and you had to contend with horses. Now there are multiple thousand pound death machines. Have a little regard for your own safety and use the dedicated lanes for people.

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[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's still a multi thousand pound machine with a fallible human operator. Better to be in a space not designated for it.

Edit to be clear the fault would generally rest with the driver, but pedestrian driver interactions should be limited at all costs

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

It's not a good idea to share the street when there's a sidewalk. In that equation a car always wins

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[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago

I do that all the time here in Europe and nobody gets mad. It's such an immense space and I don't want to be relegated to 30cm of sidewalk. People hang out in the streets and car drivers are chill

[-] th3dogcow@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I do the same in Japan. Most residential streets don’t have sidewalks so we share them with cars, pedestrians and bicycles. Some of the bigger streets have quite wide sidewalks (one car lane’s width or more) so I would use those.

But in this photo, the sidewalks are minuscule. I especially understand the dog walker choosing the road instead.

I’m happy that my town has started to widen sidewalks and reduce the width of roads to promote more foot traffic in the downtown area.

[-] bratorange@feddit.org 10 points 4 days ago

I think it still very much depends where in Europe you do that

[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Italy, to be exact. Maybe doing the same in Germany would make me end up with a fine

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[-] josteinsn@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I lived in Morocco for three years and there it’s more common to walk in the street than on the sidewalk. Compared to the other places I’ve lived (Northern Europe), it’s strange, and the driving is more reckless, but no drivers got mad. Walking in the street is just what people do.

[-] Mobilityfuture@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

We need a “fuck pedestrians” instance for this one guys

[-] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We don’t have sidewalks in my community. Kids play in the streets and people are out walking on them all the time. Pushing strollers, walking their dogs, etc. The real difference is everyone is respectful. Cars drive slow and slow down more to go by giving extra space. Folks on the road move over and let the car go by. Kids collect up and move out of the way. A lot of the folks walking their dogs will step into the grass and wait. Everyone waves at each other. It’s like having a nice little community of friends that I never have to actually talk to. After living here for almost two years I strongly believe that I could stop and ask for help from any of them and I’d do the same. Kind of crazy reflecting on being that I’ve only ever talked to a few people, one of which only because she does crossing guard duties for the school crosswalk I take my son to in the golf cart.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

People from Bakersfield walk on the street, all over. Once you get used to it though it's really not that difficult to live with. I imagine if people still used roads for walking like before cars, we could figure it out.

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[-] bratorange@feddit.org 12 points 4 days ago

I feel like many people commenting are not familiar with walkable streets. They have however been very common for most of the time in history. Using the sidewalk is not really a good substitute for that. I used to live in a neighborhood where there were so many people on the streets on weekends, that u wouldn’t want to drive there even if it was technically a street. The quality of life there was amazing especially in the evening and on weekends.

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Not enough context is given to know if weather or not that is true here or not. Such roads are rare, while I like them, this does not look like one of those situations froma glance. Therefore cars kill, gtfo the road.

[-] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

You don't deserve more space just because you bought F150.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago

Maybe they do it to slow down traffic. It’s clearly a residential area. It could be that speeding is a problem.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

Using a human body as traffic calming is psycho mode zoning use change

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[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago

It's been tried and tested. Human bodies barely slow a car down. It's much better to place something solid, like a concrete block

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