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I love the original patientgamers subreddit so I was stoked to find this community. And because lemmy seems to have a more knowledgeable crowd any topic I posted here had great engagement and discussions, despite the small community. I am too busy to be a mod but maybe I can help by sparking this discussion: what would be needed to keep this sub going?

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[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 165 points 4 months ago

Wait 3 years and post when upvotes are cheap.

[-] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 43 points 4 months ago

I always wait for vote sales. People preordering upvotes are crazy

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago

c/PatientPatientGamingPosting

[-] gazter@aussie.zone 5 points 4 months ago

I've got a whole library of upvotes that I haven't even used yet.

[-] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Don't forget to make sure it's a "complete" or "GOTY" post, nothing worse than waiting for a mediocre deal on an incomplete post

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Also all the spelling and gramatical errors will have been fixed by then.

[-] meteokr@community.adiquaints.moe 65 points 4 months ago

I am very patient, so I'm in no rush for this community. Time only gives us more content,

[-] tal@lemmy.today 63 points 4 months ago

Post stuff akin to what's on /r/patientgamers. Comment on posts.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 53 points 4 months ago
[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 14 points 4 months ago

Yeah. Commenting is important. I look at my feed under Hot and I see a bunch of new posts over the last few hours and they all have 0 comments. Lemmy w/o comments is just a community-driven RSS feed. I comment first when I actually have something to add but it's just as important as posting new links.

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So, just looking at the top 15 items of what's presently on /r/patientgamers:

https://old.reddit.com/r/patientgamers/

  • A daily stickied post for small, general conversation where people don't want to do a full submission.

  • People talking about their impressions on games that they've just finished or played: 10

  • Broader discussion items ("Did anyone else like Skyrim, but wasn't able to get into Fallout 4?", "The Borderlands Movie Should Have Adapted Telltale's Tales from the Borderlands", "Help Me Remember - Gaming's Keepsakes"): 3

  • Talking about a series overall ("I'm glad Need for Speed games are still focussing on the story"): 1

In my own Reddit experience, the stickied regular post has mostly been useful for when there's too much traffic on a particular topic. /r/europe did megathreads to keep Ukraine war traffic from overwhelming the sub. However, there are some subs that do daily posts for small conversation items, maybe to lower the bar for people to comment. /r/cataclysmdda does this. @caut_R@lemmy.world commented in this thread and said that the bar to creating a new post was substantial for him:

Maybe I‘m just jaded by Reddit‘s „ackshually“ culture that jumps on you if a post‘s not a well thought out thesis, but I feel pressured to deliver substantial quality when posting (not commenting) on boards and I‘m too tired from the day for that.

...so maybe that's applicable here.

The lion's share of the posts, though, is just people posting about some game that they played and their impressions. So maybe that?

[-] caut_R@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

I liked the weekly/bi-weekly „What are you playing“ posts, but they seem to have stopped, even on the bigger „games“ subs.

I‘d post about games I‘ve played lately (like Unravel) but I feel like „was a cool game with a cool style which made me enjoy the graphics even today and was interesting to platinum“ doesn‘t start much of a discussion.

Maybe I‘m just jaded by Reddit‘s „ackshually“ culture that jumps on you if a post‘s not a well thought out thesis, but I feel pressured to deliver substantial quality when posting (not commenting) on boards and I‘m too tired from the day for that.

Which is why I liked the „What are you playing“ posts since I could just drop a one liner and comment on other one liners of people who are enjoying games I‘ve enjoyed as well lol

[-] Malix@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago

I‘d post about games I‘ve played lately (like Unravel) but I feel like „was a cool game with a cool style which made me enjoy the graphics even today and was interesting to platinum“ doesn‘t start much of a discussion.

I'll be the first to admit I mainly lurk, but I'd be interested to read about games people find interesting. Who knows, might be a title which flew under my radar and was one introduction away from being my all time favorite.

But yea, the "what are you playing" threads were fun reads.

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 4 months ago

I liked the weekly/bi-weekly „What are you playing“ posts, but they seem to have stopped, even on the bigger „games“ subs.

Well, !gaming@beehaw.org and !games@sh.itjust.works both have stickied posts from this week of that sort up with activity. How many gaming subs do you read?

[-] caut_R@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I‘m on another patient gamers sub, and the games sub on lemmy.world. The biggest weakness of Lemmy IMO is how fractured communities can become due to very similar subs on different instances - which this is now an example of, I suppose, since I had no idea about the ones you mentioned lol

I‘ll check them out later, although it obviously doesn‘t help this sub specifically

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

The biggest weakness of Lemmy IMO is how fractured communities can become due to very similar subs on different instances

Agreed, and also why I think Lemmy will never progress past a niche audience despite being capable of doing so. It'd be nice if there was a feature that allowed instances to merge all like-named communities into a singular one. I know cross posting was meant to help address the problem, but that's a manual process that falls quite short in resolving the core issue.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't think it's that fundamental. I mean, Reddit has one shared namespace for subreddit names, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to use one keyword. Like, you have /r/guns and /r/firearms, stuff like that. Nothing merges those.

And even for /r/patientgamers, there's overlap. Like, /r/patientgamers probably has a fair bit of overlap with /r/retrogaming (note: !retrogaming@lemmy.world and !retrogaming@kbin.social exist) and /r/truegaming.

I do think that making lemmyverse.net's search feature or something similar that spans multiple instances to help people find communities across many instances more easily would help, and putting support for that in clients. The Threadiverse model of having an instance not index communities until someone on an instance subscribes helps scalability, but if the main way to search for communities only searches communities that an instance knows about, it kind of kills discoverability for users.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

In regard to Reddit having the same problem, I agree it does to an extent. But like you said, it only allows for synonyms or alternate wording for the same topic in a subreddit's name. On Lemmy, since instances are different, the fractured communities can be named the exact same thing. Most casual users are not going to realize this and think that the one community they're in is not active when on another instance, the other like-named community might have grown and is now quite active since they initially setup their subscriptions. They'll never know unless they happen to run another search and see the alternate community's user count.

Maybe I'm wrong and it isn't a big deal. But I do agree that searching and indexing would be a great step in helping discoverability.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There's some site that's designed just to use a bot account on various major instances to subscribe a new community. It waits until there are something like 10 regular users subscribed, then unsubscribes. You could just plonk in a community name and have it do so. That helps discoverability but kind of clashes with the whole intended scalability decision in lemmy/kbin/etc design not to slurp in content from all communities out there.

I think this is the github project page, but someone was running an instance of it.

googles

Man, I can't even find the instance that someone was running, which does kind of maybe highlight the need for a central "Threadiverse wiki" that links to all this stuff. fediverse.observer, lemmyverse.net, fedidb.org, join-lemmy.org, etc. There's some other tool that someone made to measure post federation latency, so you could see what instances are overloaded or not working. There are a ton of useful tools out there, but no central hub. I keep finding them when someone links to them on the Threadiverse and then never being able to find them again.

My own home instance, lemmy.today, has always had a request in the sidebar asking people to subscribe to a bunch of communities so that they become visible to the instance, which seems like kind of an awkward workaround for discoverability:

🥹 Make sure to join a lot of remote communities to get a good feed going. How to do that is explained here.

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I‘m on another patient gamers sub, and the games sub on lemmy.world.

Heh, fair enough.

I had no idea about the ones you mentioned lol

If you hit lemmyverse.net, they've got a "search all instances by communities by name" feature, which I think is probably currently the most-realistic way to find communities across all of the Threadiverse.

https://lemmyverse.net/communities

Note that their kbin indexing isn't great -- you need to explicitly choose "kbin magazines" from the upper-right hamburger menu; it doesn't combine kbin and lemmy results. And they don't currently index at least kbin.social, which is the largest kbin instance.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Beehaw deliberately cuts theirs* off from two of the biggest Lemmy instances so I wouldn't expect much there.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ohhhh, that's a good thought. Beehaw.org's pretty aggressive about defederation when they have problems with users. I'm on lemmy.today, and they haven't defederated from there, so I'm still seeing what's current on there.

Well, a direct link to see what's on there, bypassing defederations: https://beehaw.org/c/gaming

[-] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 4 points 4 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !gaming@beehaw.org

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

I...appreciate the effort, bot. It's good to know that you're looking out for us.

[-] Ashtear@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

In my experience, having a weekly sticky like that is essential for engagement. There are plenty of people here, they just aren't making threads. If you get people in the habit of dropping by once a week, they are more likely to post.

I'd also make the suggestion to scale the rule back to 6 months from 12. It's a good idea in general for a slow community and there were multiple big games that came out in that month 7 through 12 time period. Can always change it back when the community is active. /r/patientgamers was 6 months until semi-recently.

That said, this doesn't have to be a carbon copy of the subreddit. I liked the Meme Monday suggestion that was posed. Anything to drive engagement.

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[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 months ago

A low effort post day would help. Meme Monday or something.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Just be patient bro

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago

Post when games get a free day on platforms like Steam or GOG?

Post when games are at a new low price point (< $20 USD and < 50% their launch price?)

I'm waiting for Rimworld to drop to $15.

[-] Subtex@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago

Like others have mentioned, I am in the same boat of having multiple communities to follow with the same name but on different instances and I forget about others or (more likely) don't even know that others exist.

It does bug me that I can't group communities that exist on different instances together. It would be nice to be able to subscribe to a collection of communities that I can give a label to.

A way to group all patientgamers communities together would be a huge help.

It's just the way the whole federation stuff works I guess. And I like it...Except for when I don't 😂

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Send a suggestion to your Lemmy app developer! That honestly sounds like a great idea I could see being implemented by like Sync or something.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago
[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We’ve had trouble over at true gaming getting things cooking as well. Maybe I can reach out to the mods and see if there’s some cooperation to be had here as we’re likely too fragmented at present. I’ll talk to our mod team today and see if we can think of something.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 4 months ago

!truegaming@kbin.social. Try to use the bang syntax when linking communities rather than direct linking it like that, so that others can click it and access it from their own instance.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Also, on the user side of that, for when someone doesn't use said syntax, note that there's a Firefox, Chrome, and Edge extension, "Instance Assistant for Lemmy & Kbin", where one can set one's home instance. It'll add a button in the sidebar in threads on remote instances where one can just click on "view in my home instance".

!instance_assistant@lemmy.ca

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lemmy-instance-assistant/

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/instance-assistant-for-le/mbblbalkjcikhpladidpimlfiapdffdh

https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/instance-assistant-for-le/hnlndgeokcaocdklkbfjbfjplfnedehb

https://github.com/cynber/lemmy-instance-assistant

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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 8 points 4 months ago

Did not know this existed. Can't say I specifically wait three months but tend to just play what comes my way. I like never complete games so they go on forever for me. Imma sub.

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 3 points 4 months ago

Kinda the same, and it's almost an irony since I'm on my own instance. I must have manually subscribed to this community myself, and I think this is the first post I've ever seen on my front page from it.

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[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

I can't post about game impressions that often because I am very slow at my gaming... With that said I just finished The Last Window for Nintendo DS again (remember next to nothing about the plot) and god I had a blast with it!

I recommend it to anyone who is looking for a visual novel, but it would be wiser to play Hotel Dusk first if you haven't yet, as The Last Window is a sequel.

[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I posted a question to my hometown lemmy community and wondered why I wasn't getting any responses. Then realised it had ~1 active user per month... who was probably me.

This community seems pretty jumping by comparison!

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 3 points 4 months ago

If it is a community rather than an instance it might still get some views. A lot of people on Lemmy are still browsing by all/new and they'd see it in that instance and wherever that community is federated.

[-] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

The monthly recommendation thread is from 3 months ago so doing that regularly is a start. It at least shows the community is active if it gets updated on time.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I dunno I never really fit in that sub because I am not only a patient gamer but I also don't care to play every game under the sun. I'm patient because I don't spend money on upgrading my rig and because I enjoy playing 1 game for 1000 hours rather than 100 games for 10 hours. I just beat MHW: Iceborne recently and like, that's pretty cool. I might buy the new Diablo 2 update some day maybe. What else do I gotta say?

I need to find an appropriate community to vent about microtransactions in mobile games. I just dipped into that world since I have more downtime out of the house, but I'm pretty disgusted with the quality of mobile gaming right now. What happened?!

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[-] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I think the two main points would be already mentioned regular "what are you playing" posts and just writing yourelf whenever you have a chance. I think that livier communities encourage engagement while "dead" ones make people less willing to participate as that means they'll more likely to become the center of attention and not everyone is comfortable with that.

Personally, I've been meaning to write some posts about the stuff I played recently but just didn't have time to do so. Maybe this week...

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