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[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago

They have to put the shooting range used for the final test underground not because an outdoor shooting range is infeasible for most police departments but rather because there are a lot less oak trees and thus less acorns and it hugely reduces the chance of trainees and officers randomly panicking and shooting each other.

You can laugh at this policy (how dare you laugh at our hero’s in blue!) but the reduction in accidental gun violence from police in training has been remarkable and police departments are considering trying to do traffic stops in similar underground facilities to reduce the risk to patrol officers actually out on the job.

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 41 points 6 months ago

[Meme transcription: 3 orangutans sitting on an interview couch. One asks, “Where acorn?”]

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Okay I feel like I'm missing a recent news story

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 19 points 6 months ago

US police officer shoots at unarmed suspect after mistaking acorn drop for gunshot (YouTube)

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I can't even come up with some smart ass response to this. I'm just so tired of useless incompetent pieces of shit not only getting these positions but also whining about being shot.

There should be some double jeopardy at this point or something where if a cop says that you shot at him and had a gun, and they fire back at you, you should be able to obliterate their kneecaps at the very least.

[-] WaffleDong@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

They pointed a gun at a guy that lit himself on fire in protest recently. Was a bullet gonna put the fire out? If all you know is a hammer everything looks like a nail

[-] Duranie@literature.cafe 12 points 6 months ago

Cop gets spooked by a falling acorn, the cop and his partner unload their weapons at the handcuffed man in the backseat of the cops car, somehow not wounding him.

[-] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 months ago

"Horrible accuracy, but at least they all went inside the tar--oh."

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

This is totally unbelievable, as not a single bullet went through anyone's dog.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is funny, and police do murder innocent dark skin ethnicities at a much higher rate, but that doesn't just erase the other ~~7/10ths~~ 5/10ths of executions which are white people.

Edit: white to black was a 7:3 ratio but it's more like 5/10ths when you include other demographics.

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Apparently when BLM protests started we had a large reduction in our ability to record the race of police shooting victims in the US:

But as of 2020, Black people in the US were more than three times as likely as white people to be killed during a police encounter

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago

Yes I agree with you 100%, I've never on any occasion argued against any of that.

Actually, the data has been largely unreliable since at least 2015, as James Comey while he was head of the FBI puts it: "I think it’s embarrassing for those of us in government who care deeply about these issues, especially the use of force by law enforcement, that we can’t have an informed discussion because we don’t have data. People have data about who went to a movie last weekend or how many books were sold or how many cases of the flu walked into an emergency room, and I cannot tell you how many people were shot by police in the United States last month, last year, or anything about the demographics, and that’s a very bad place to be." All US Federal data on police use of force is self-reported since forever.

For about 2 decades, largely one of the biggest sources for data was Philip M. Stinson, who tracked nationwide shootings with Google Alerts. There was also another great study on the matter by PNAS called "Risk of being Killed by Police in the United States by Age, Race-ethnicity, and Sex".

[-] Z4rK@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago
[-] sudo@lemmy.today 31 points 6 months ago

It's only the black that's getting shot.

[-] Z4rK@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Ah yeah that’s nowhere even close to registering where I live, luckily.

[-] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Luckily the police shoot every color there

[-] SpicyAnt@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

You are not alone. I spent two minutes trying to recognize a pattern made by the holes before scrolling down to the comments.

[-] XEAL@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

I thought this kind of humor wasn't allowed on Lemmy...

Good to see something offensive for once, I mean it.

[-] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 3 points 6 months ago

That's some dark humor.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Why are all the holes white?

[-] qwrty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It looks like the target was held up to a plaster wall for clarity.

Edit: nope I'm stupid, it's a styrofoam target, so it was probably a target for airsoft

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

😂. I've seen the stats and surprisingly there's no racial bias shown in police shootings. Apparently cops will blow you away regardless of race which is rather sweet

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

We need to see those stats please!

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Edit apparently I'm not lazy today.

Here is a Harvard study: https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force?page=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1

'On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account.'

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well... I'm not gonna lie. I too am lazy and had hopped that you could point me to the controversial data that support your comment.

I did a quick search though and the only convdincing result that I could find is, that its hard to tell

https://www.science.org/content/article/study-claims-white-police-no-more-likely-shoot-minorities-draws-fire

So if don't mind, can you please oblige me, where did you find the convincing proof that there is no racial bias in police brutality?

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Already updated it with a link. For bonus points I was sceptical of his data and methods but both myself and a professor I know checked and it's solid work.

Doesn't stop people with a race related hate message from trying to discredit it but science don't care 🤷

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Intersting. This was posted 4 years later by Harvard, stating :

Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than white Americans to be killed by police

Black Chicagoans, for example, were found to be over 650% more likely to be killed by police than white Chicagoans.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Neither of those statements indicate a racial disparity in police response by themselves.

If you don't understand why....perhaps read the study I posted and see how it's done.

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I found this article commenting on the paper you linked

Paper finding no racial bias in shootings by police criticized

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/07/21/paper-finding-no-racial-bias-shootings-police-criticized/87301632/

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Interesting though his main criticism of the paper is a bit ah...subjective (below). Seems more like he's manipulating data for an outcome tbh.

I had a look at the author and he seems to have based his career on race relations which makes me worried about his impartiality too.

'The CPE report acknowledges three problems with measuring police force: measuring "excessive" force against all force, measuring differences in police use of force, and measuring force incidents as unchanging rather than constantly changing. Goff said Fryer neither acknowledges these concepts nor deals with them as problems.'

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