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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

We need to see those stats please!

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Edit apparently I'm not lazy today.

Here is a Harvard study: https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force?page=0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1

'On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account.'

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well... I'm not gonna lie. I too am lazy and had hopped that you could point me to the controversial data that support your comment.

I did a quick search though and the only convdincing result that I could find is, that its hard to tell

https://www.science.org/content/article/study-claims-white-police-no-more-likely-shoot-minorities-draws-fire

So if don't mind, can you please oblige me, where did you find the convincing proof that there is no racial bias in police brutality?

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Already updated it with a link. For bonus points I was sceptical of his data and methods but both myself and a professor I know checked and it's solid work.

Doesn't stop people with a race related hate message from trying to discredit it but science don't care 🤷

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Intersting. This was posted 4 years later by Harvard, stating :

Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than white Americans to be killed by police

Black Chicagoans, for example, were found to be over 650% more likely to be killed by police than white Chicagoans.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Neither of those statements indicate a racial disparity in police response by themselves.

If you don't understand why....perhaps read the study I posted and see how it's done.

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I found this article commenting on the paper you linked

Paper finding no racial bias in shootings by police criticized

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/07/21/paper-finding-no-racial-bias-shootings-police-criticized/87301632/

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Interesting though his main criticism of the paper is a bit ah...subjective (below). Seems more like he's manipulating data for an outcome tbh.

I had a look at the author and he seems to have based his career on race relations which makes me worried about his impartiality too.

'The CPE report acknowledges three problems with measuring police force: measuring "excessive" force against all force, measuring differences in police use of force, and measuring force incidents as unchanging rather than constantly changing. Goff said Fryer neither acknowledges these concepts nor deals with them as problems.'

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