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[-] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

what. the fuck.

[-] 312@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

This is Musk’s “Reichstag Fire” moment for Twitter.

The rate limiting is not because of “extreme manipulation”, but because of piss-poor code that Twitter deployed as part of their change to only allow tweets to be viewed if logged in. Twitter is effectively DDoSing itself right now. But, it creates an opportunity for Musk to create a narrative.

These “temporary” limits will probably remain inevitably, as they provide another benefit to Twitter - they drive Blue subscriptions. Unfortunately, they also repel free users from using the platform entirely, and at a much higher ratio.

Twitter is going to become even more of a cesspool than it already is at an alarming rate. Crazy how many established social media platforms have decided to crumble at the exact same time.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Oh my god, this is just too funny.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

"The DDOS is coming from INSIDE the HOUSE!"

[-] lunarmedic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My lord. And they can't/won't piece 1+1 together? Hanlon's razor dictates they are indeed idiots.

[-] 312@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

In order to quickly fix it they would probably have to roll back the change to require login to view tweets, which would be admitting that it wasn’t caused by “attacks” on Twitter, which Elon won’t do. Rock and a hard place.

[-] millionsofplayers@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

you commented 3 times btw

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[-] coldv@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I find it especially bizarre that spez took inspiration and guidance from Musk. I can entertain the possibility of Musk intentionally driving Twitter to the ground (though he sure is taking the scenic route), but Reddit? It just seems like the rich tech bros have collectively lost their minds

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

You can't lose something you never had

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

They never had their minds. They just now have enough money to make that all of our problems... This is why no one deserves billions of dollars. It makes you go megalomaniacle.

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[-] fidodo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

It goes deeper than that.

This all started with the API changes. Before they were charging a fair price for the API and companies happily paid it for the convenience. Then Elon got greedy he started charging a ridiculous amount for the API so those companies decided it would be worth it to just deal with the annoyance and switch to scraping the website instead. But when you hit the website it's way less efficient than hitting the API because it's doing a bunch of mixing and ranking which is a lot more complicated and costly than serving static content, which costs a small fraction of real time algorithmic ranking. So now instead of making money off companies that want their data they're losing money on the cloud costs to serve the scrapers.

More recently, they haven't been paying their hosting bills to Google and their service was set to expire at the end of last month. What just happened at the start of this month? They added the limitations. That can't be a coincidence. Now the Google services weren't hosting the site itself, otherwise they'd probably be fully down right now, but it was hosting their trust and safety services for things like fighting spam. That could have also been hosting anti scraper services as well. Since they're so under staffed they probably couldn't swap the services in time, so instead of having anti scraping services like every other big company on the internet, they decided to cut service instead. It's just built up incompetence coming to a head.

[-] ArgonautVehicle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Elon Musk, the latest billionaire owner of the online screaming match known as Twitter, sat slumped at his desk, staring at a wall of monitors blinking with a technicolor smorgasbord of error messages. The reason? He'd just let Twitter's hosting contract with Google lapse because he thought it'd be fun to see if he could migrate it somewhere else. The results? Not so fun.

A comment on Reddit had caught his eye, and he couldn't shake it. "Every now and then Elon must have a moment of clarity. Where it occurs to him 'Maybe I am just stupid?' But then he violently buries the thought."

"Stupid?" he scoffed aloud to his empty office, sending a mini landslide of Mars Rover prototypes tumbling off his desk. "I'm a genius."

He remembered how smart he'd felt when he decided to axe the account verification system, only to reinstate it after a week of high-profile mix-ups that included the Dalai Lama being mistaken for a llama enthusiast.

And the content moderation! Who needs it? Well, as it turned out, everyone. Without it, Twitter had turned into a feral wilderness of conspiracy theories, insult slinging, and more unsolicited pictures of eggplants than a greengrocer's catalog.

And then there was Kanye. "Free Kanye!" he'd declared one afternoon after one too many rocket fuel coffees. But after the notorious rapper had declared war on flannel shirts and clogged up the site with CAPS LOCK tweets, the ban was back on faster than you can say "Kim Kardashian for president."

"Stupid?" he muttered again, watching as Twitter spontaneously DDOS'd itself like a robotic bull in a digital china shop.

There was a pause. Then a grin spread slowly across Elon's face, as if he'd just understood the punchline to a particularly tricky joke. "Naaaah," he laughed, slapping the desk.

He looked at the chaos on the screens, the digital calamity his decisions had wrought, and couldn't help but chuckle. There was something amusing about being this absurdly, cosmically, hilariously brilliant.

"Back to the drawing board," he chuckled, picking up a Mars Rover and making it do little jumps across his desk.

[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Remember elon musk isn't smart

We shouldn't credit him for Tesla, spacex, etc because it's the employees that actually put in the effort and contribute

Elon is just a Mr moneybags that thinks he smart because the things he funded have been good ideas when he actually never contributed anything to those ideas

I can't wait until the companies he's finding push him out completely

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[-] M_g@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly this is probably more close to reality than anyone wants to admit.

[-] jamesoh5@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

As a former individual who understands the underlying systems, it seems like they botched deployment of a new feature causing issues and cannot figure out how to solve them.

Most of Twitter is and has been in maintenance mode since acquisition (think of 10 man engineering team and 1 left to handle maintenance).

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

This is why it cracks me up every time when someone is praising Elon for "cutting slack" when firing all those twitter employees. Yes, twitter did not implode immediately. Turns out, people can build software that is stable enough to run in maintenance mode. But good luck dealing with new issues cropping up.

[-] Captain_Breadbeard@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think I've ever met a former individual. What happened? Was it like a Frankenstein thing?

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[-] drpebcak@lemmyrs.org 4 points 1 year ago

That rate limit is insanely low, even for verified. I’m not verified, but I hit the limit in like 10 minutes of very distracted usage.

[-] 73rdnemesio@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

The hilarity is that these moves are the exact opposite of the so called Public Square he claims Twitter is or should be.

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[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

My pet theory...... Though I don't believe it.

Musk and u/spez are playing 4-dimensional chess. The end goal is to increase freedom and user choice. By slowly destroying their respective platforms, people are driven to the fediverse, the idea of centralised platforms is tainted, power is shifted back to the user and long term everyone is better off.

It is a nice thought experiment.....

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This but I don't think they are on the side of the people. For both of them it could be personal or part of some secret deal, though if it's the latter at all, it's probably both. Both got a lot of disrespect through those platforms, and the freedom of movement of information on both platforms were making things more difficult for entities that were previously dominating the information game.

I just wonder what their next play is if I'm right. I suspect Reddit will walk back their changes to try to kill off these decentralized mass social media sites to bring the discussion back to the centralized ones where they can at least influence the discussions with admin access to the platform.

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

limiting engagement an app that RELIES ON ENGAGEMENT????? IT CAN'T POSSIBLY GET DUMBER THAN THIS???

[-] substill@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

“Starting immediately, all McDonald’s will restrict the number of fries we sell to 1.5 packages per customer.”

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[-] Strangian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Twitter and Reddit both dying at the same time was not what I expected in 2023

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[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Transcription for the blind: Screenshot of a Twitter post from Elon Musk, Twitter handle @elonmusk, that says:

To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we've applied the following temporary limits:

  • Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
  • Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
  • New unverified accounts to 300/day

1:01 PM Jul 1, 2023 3.6M Views

-Transcription from a human volunteer. Let me know how I can do better.

[-] PoppinKREAM@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you for the transcription, human volunteer :)

The sequence of events from Elon Musk acquiring Twitter to now is an incredible journey.

  • Elon Musk bought a social media company for tens of billions, attempted to back out of the deal but couldn't because of his ineptitude by signing away the ability to reneg on the deal.^[1]

  • Then there was the freedom of speech advocacy from Musk where he ultimately unbanned racists and then he began sharing bigoted Tweets. But it's only freedom of speech for his bigoted supporters, when authoritarian governments ask Musk to censor people/tweets he abides by their requests.^[2]

  • The site becomes inundated with the alt right rife with bigotry.^[3]

  • The whole verified blue check mark debacle where verification became something you could pay for, with people making fake "official" accounts. For example a fake account impersonating a pharmaceutical company caused their stock to drop abruptly following a joke tweet.^[4]

  • Twitter engages in mass layoffs and multiple things break on the site. There are also reports that they can't pay rent in certain locations. Twitter is hemorrhaging advertisors, as they record a 59% reduction in advertising revenue.^[5]

  • Elon Musk posts tweets seemingly apologizing for some of the changes and says he will follow the will of the people by posting polls for users to vote on policy changes. Musk asks if he should step down, to which the majority vote in favour of his removal. He then goes on a tirade about bots after losing in the poll. He goes on to say that only paid subscribers will be permited to vote in future polls. Vox Populi, Vox Dei.^[6]

  • The crème de la crème is Elon Musk implementing a new restriction where you have to be logged in to see tweets. Inadvertently DDOSing his own site.


  1. New York Times - Why Elon Musk Can’t Back Out of Buying Twitter, According to Twitter

  2. Forbes - Twitter Has Complied With Almost Every Government Request For Censorship Since Musk Took Over, Report Finds

  3. The Atlantic -Twitter Is a Far-Right Social Network

  4. Forbes - Fake Eli Lilly Twitter Account Claims Insulin Is Free, Stock Falls 4.37%

  5. New York Times - Twitter’s U.S. Ad Sales Plunge 59% as Woes Continue

  6. The Guardian - Elon Musk breaks silence after 10 million Twitter users vote for him to step down

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hopefully this leads to Twitter not being the public square of the internet anymore at least mainstream wise. The man is doing everything to make the site worse.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Twitter was an important unifying communications tool during the Arab Spring. The Arab spring was a threat to biz as usual in places like Saudi Arabia. The second largest investor in Twitter is Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia killed and dismembered a journalist from the US, more or less in plain sight. Elon is now killing and dismembering Twitter in plain sight to limit its power as a unifying tool that stands as a demonstrable, active threat to capitalism and oligarchs around the world.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires. It's part of why spez is trying to tank Reddit. Remember how dangerous Reddit was to capitalism's status quo around the time of GME/Robinhood/Antiwork recently.

The specific moment we're in right now is meant to shatter consolidated organizing power on Reddit as we splinter into several smaller alternative platforms (or for some, disconnect entirely). Not saying we shouldn't be in Lemmy, but calling out the larger reality of the moment.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires.

[-] vintprox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who would even read 300 a day?

Nevertheless, Twitter has fucking died. 😆

[-] tuxrandom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The sad part is that all the Musk evangelists (and there are a lot of them) will happily pay for a 'verified' account if they happen to exceed the limit.

[-] Found@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like most of them will already have it by now. For them its probably just a loyalty perk.

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[-] Skcyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I thought the end goal is to no more Twitter. And I'm here for it.

[-] Nathaniel_essex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Elon is so damn transparent. I NEVER remembering anything like this happening before Elon. Dude is running this like a moronic mob boss.

"Hey..it'd be a shame if you could only view 600 tweets. I have this Twitter Blue that might be able to help...."

[-] Mulligan@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago
[-] jecxjo@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe it was just me but Musk has never seemed like someone who actually understood tech. Just a rich guy who buys up other's work and talks a big game. I knew the second I heard he bought Twitter it was going to crash and burn. He's doing it way faster than I thought possible.

Of course he will eventually say this was all on purposes and not that he is crap at business and tech.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This isn't mildly infuriating, Musk is being the biggest fedi advocate out there! He's selflessly nuking his own site so he can drive traffic to decentralized alternatives. This is a good thing lol, and should be an important lesson on link rot, and that social media should never be the primary method of communication.

[-] JayK117@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Therefore any company that puts out notices or alerts via Twitter should immediately exit the platform. Running their own server on mastodon would be a better bet

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

And it only cost $44 billion.

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Why are so many people suddenly against Twatter burning? I thought we all wanted that?

[-] yool_ooloo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He'll probably get some total write-off when it fails and get $44B returned to him (from the tax payers, of course)

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Let me get this straight… paying verified members have limits on how many tweets they can read

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