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Actual poster from 1917 that made me laugh. A lot.

Also, those motherfuckers are measuring the weight of those balls in kilograms, aren't they?

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[-] parapsyker@startrek.website 0 points 1 month ago

There are multiple copies of this posted in the cabinet shop where I work. In Canada.

[-] probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is his punishment for war crimes.

[-] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

1917 shitpost with obstinate opinions held to this day. Brilliant!

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

I don't think anyone believes the current system to be better, rather too much of a pain to replace. Americans really dislike learning and being inconvenienced.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't think anyone believes the current system to be better,

Check our ShitAmericansSay (on Reddit, ew) and you'll find plenty who argue that metric is worse.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I did say that we hate learning. 😉

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Although, to be fair, British people say that too, especially when Britain joined the EU. "You mean I have to stop measuring the produce I sell in pounds and ounces?!"

And, of course, they still use MPH. I imagine there would be a massive uproar if that got changed.

British have gone much further with metrification than the U.S. but there's still way too much resistance. And some of it is very silly indeed- weighing yourself in stone, which is a rather arbitrary 14 pounds.

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

7 pounds = 1 stone… got it. How much rock = 1 stone then? Or is rock more than stone?

[-] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago

Both have to be more than a pebble, right?

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Hundreds of millions of people learned the new units when their countries switched.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

All I can say is that the metric system was predominantly taught in my American school experience, with US units mainly limited to math class. The only thing that sucked about using metric in science class is the short unit we had where we needed to convert measurements between metric and US, which I think was arguably the point.

It's corporations, really, that seem to insist on having their products and tools still defaulting to US customary units, and I can't fathom why. Even when you go abroad and try to buy a TV, they're all still labeled in inches, which boggles my mind.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

It's corporations, really, that seem to insist on having their products and tools still defaulting to US customary units...

I am no corporate fan, but this one is not on them. They already sell the same products in metric everywhere else. If the US switched to metric, most corporations would be able to switch overnight.

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[-] wjrii@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I doubt the corporations care in any deep way, same as with anything else. It's just sort of a chicken and egg thing. They'll resist change as long as resisting is cost-effective, but that very resistance slows adoption. Still, they will likely shrug and adapt if it becomes obvious that people prefer metric, or even simply stop caring.

[-] folekaule@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Did you go to school in the 70s or 80s? I don't think it's like that anymore.

[-] hime0321@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Probably depends on state. I went to high school in Washington state, just about a decade ago, and we were taught SI units in most science classes. Unit conversion was almost always one of the first lessons we had. Chemistry specifically made us learn sig figs, which is much easier to use with SI units, and made me wish we used them everywhere.

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

Americans really dislike learning and being inconvenienced.

it's worse than that-- we have gallons of milk, but liters of soda. we drive in mph, but run in 5K. science and medicine weights are grams, but recipes call for ounces. want to fix an american car--hope you have both metric and "standard" wrenches

more like we'd rather stay with the stupidness and inconvenience we know rather than change anything, no matter how much better it would be

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

want to fix an american car–hope you have both metric and “standard” wrenches

I will point out that with the singular and shining exception of lugnuts, at least this one has not been the case since at least the 1970's. All fasteners on current(ish) American cars are metric nowadays and have been for quite some time. I've never seen a single one that isn't on any car that's not old enough to qualify for historic plates.

This used to piss off the oldheads to no end back when I managed a hardware store because they would absolutely insist, sometimes literally screaming in my face about it, that their dang old good old boy red blooded American Ford that they just bought didn't have no Jap pinko metric bolts in it anywhere not nohow, and 100% of the time they were wrong. (This annoyed me only slightly less than the people who showed up needing a bolt, didn't know what it was, didn't bring the old one with them, and the only information they had was "I took it off with a 9/16 wrench." Hombre, the head size tells me absolutely nothing about the diameter, thread pitch, or length. Then they would claim that it's just a "standard" bolt, as if there's any such thing. Also, a 9/16" wrench will usually fairly easily remove a bolt with a 14mm head, so that really tells me nothing. Or 5/8" on 16mm. Etc.)

Harleys, however, take it as some kind of point of pride that they actually do use fractional inch fasteners everywhere.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

didn’t know what it was, didn’t bring the old one with them, and the only information they had was

LOL the library equivalent is "i'm looking for a book but don't remember the title or author, but it was about a woman who fell in love, and it had a red cover!" which describes a not-insignificant percentage of all books in existence

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

That, and different editions and prints of different books can and will have different covers.

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[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

We are used to 2 liter bottles, so we still use them. We run 5ks because its been a standard distance to run for a long time. Other countries also do similar things, old habits die hard.

We use metric for science and medicine because the benefits of metric are much more pronounced for those use cases.

Honestly, using both really isnt that hard. Its only really an inconvenience if you aren't already used to it. We aren't changing it because we're getting along just fine the way things are, and there are much bigger problems to be solved.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

for one thing, there will always be "bigger problems to solve," just like with getting rid of DST, which also needs to fucking die a horrible death already

for another thing, thank you for providing a perfect example of my last sentence

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[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

See also: the 9mm and 5 grams in my pockets

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

LOL i'm sure the multiple units of measurement for ammo is worldwide-- thanks USA! but yea, drugs are always metric

[-] hime0321@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Except that it has been replaced, or is not the preferred unit for trade and commerce. The SI has been the “preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce” since 1975 according to United States law. Too bad most other Americans are too scared of change to use it everywhere else.

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[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 1 month ago

Ugh, who wants to change to a base-10 system when we keep what ever we have now?

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

I mean there's really only four ways people use imperial over metric

For cooking, For weighing themselves, For measuring distances, For measuring temperature.

For most other purposes, especially where scientific accuracy is called for, Americans are perfectly aware of and capable of using metric, and mostly do so.

Metric pushing at this point is basically bashing non academics for continuing to use a colloquial measurement that serves them just fine for what they actually need to measure and visualize on a daily basis.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You forgot one: Fasteners, i.e. nuts and bolts, when all the rest of the world has been metric for decades and whatever it is you're taking apart almost certainly uses metric bolts (car, appliance, electronic device, whatever). But your local hardware store still gives you attitude over metric being ''''''''specialty'''''''' and the majority of their selection of bolts and machine screws are fractional inch which will not fit approximately 9.98% of all manufactured goods from the last century, let alone this one.

[-] GentriFriedRice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Having two sets of wrenches and sockets is absolute worst. Especially when it seems like 10mm does 80% of the work but is missing 100% of the time

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[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Well, yeah. We are trying to make things easier for You.

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[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

Cooking has largely moved to metric (with the exception of spices/seasonings, weighing spices is tedious compared to spoons IMO)

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

That depends more on the setting, IDK about professional kitchens but most home cooking I've seen measures in imperial.

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I have never seen a US cookbook or Internet recipe site that defaults to metric.

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[-] snooggums@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

Imperial is intermixed woth metric in constructionnand a ton of engineering projects as materials are still manufactured in imperial measurements. Farming is still stuck in imperial too.

Both are still around because an entire industry changing fundamental measurements is a lot of effort.

My second favorite example of the two living in harmony for the average US citizen is the liquir store. Beer comes in ounces but hard liquir and wine comes in metric.

My favorite is soda, which comes in 20 oz and 2 liter bottles on the same shelf. People opposed to the metric system tend to ignore the fact that they are already using it somewhere in their lives and just don't notice.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Mine is that the most rabidly anti metric folks stateside are likely to be weapons enthusiasts who measure ammo calibur in metric.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

My comparison is that the metric system is like color vision. It's like colors for traffic lights, but USC people insist it's fine memorizing which light is which location. In metric you just see the world in a way USC can't, but USC people insist they're just fine.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

The metric system is a threat to our way of life - Kyle

[-] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 0 points 1 month ago

uncle sam you dense motherfucker go to SCHOOL

[-] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

The idea that a simpler system of weights and measures that operate in base-10 will somehow cripple America is somehow fucking hilarious.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

From John Bazell “In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.”

[-] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Calorie? Are they part of metric system? Everyone uses Joule.

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[-] Cort@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I mean, 1btu is required per pound of water per degree Farenheit. About 8lbs/gal and raising it 142°f would mean 1136btus

[-] finley@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

that's a lot of words and numbers for, "go fuck yourself"

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[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

How awful. Making someone divide things by 10 instead of 12, 16, or fucking 64.

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[-] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck that, we should be measuring everything in Stone.

I'll take a seventh stone of chicken please.

And lengths in Royal cubits.

If we're gonna go weird we need to go all the way.

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