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Despair in Russia as Putin Spirals Out of Control
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How anyone over there still sucks this dude off is beyond me lmao
I would imagine it's at gunpoint, figuratively or literally.
There are a lot of people there that haven't experienced oppression personally and genuinely believe that "strong ruler" that "keeps people in line" is what's needed for their country to be "strong".
Also one of the key points of Russian propaganda that has been hammered into them for decades is that "democracy is a sham" and that any alternative to Putin's regime would be just as oppressive and simply less "competent" (and therefore lead to Russia's ruin).
Putin supporters do not believe that democracy can work and they don't want democracy, as simple as that.
There's a reason why Russians do not believe democracy can work. It is the fact that the only brief time there was democracy in Russia in the past few hundred years was a time of unmitigated chaos. The transition away from communism was un utter disaster. The west didn't help either. All the west did was try take a piece of the pie.
What’s to stop someone from leaving? Are they North Korea like that?
Emigration is really hard, both emotionally and financially, regardless of where you live.
That’s a really good point I hadn’t considered in passing, moving to a whole new country, and as a Russian? Probably pretty tough
Most end up in Georgia, because it's just across the border, culturally and linguistically close.
And Georgia has it really bad rn as well. Basically no one is talking about how Russia has Georgia completely under its thumb. It’s really bad in Tbilisi. I wish it got more coverage.
Usually illegal to work unless you have money to pay to get the permission to work.
No, but there are many obstacles. Besides usual ones common to migration in general, due to sanctions people who want to emigrate won't be able to easily access their money left in Russia. Also if they speak up against Putin everything they left in Russia will be confiscated and returning back (for any reason including possible deportation) will be dangerous (Russia is smart enough to not charge dissenters living abroad so that they won't be able to claim asylum, but when they return they can be arrested. This strategy was used since USSR times). This makes emigration a risky proposition unless you already have a high-paying job lined up for you, and can receive foreign citizenship in a short time.
They don’t let valuable people live. Also they don’t let people convert roubles to western currency. The current exchange rate for roubles is a complete sham as it’s not a free market
Pretty sure many people in the world aren’t doing business with Russian currency for obvious reasons.
That only changed recently, it wasn’t always like that. “Free markets” don’t need to be fully free for the same reason that the tolerant need not tolerate the intolerant.
Based in the news I've read, the Russian government, and also the ones of many neighboring countries
Open windows I suspect
Huh?
Defenestration joke.
I can’t believe there’s an actual word for this
It's a long and proud tradition that has existed for as long as there have been windows at higher than ground level. Entire wars were started over this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestrations_of_Prague
I am however convinced that in Putin's Russia, defenestrations aren't always the actual cause of death. It's a far too convenient method for covering up torture.
You have to have a country to go to. The hard part of emigrating is often immigrating. Countries don't generally just let people in.
Do you have a few minutes to talk about our lord and savior donald trump?
Don't even fucking say that ironically.
Oh its really simple and I'm kind of angry how many people keep making your statement.
Fact: about 1/3 of the world enjoys the suffering of others and wants a visible, high profile enemy to rail against. They are cultist regressives dreaming for a past that never existed, in Russia's case the fantasy of the old USSR at its peak.
They are angry at being poor and powerless and gladly accept any justification that allows them to hate someone else.
The same motivations behind trumpty dumpty's cult. Do you honestly think this is a coincidence?
Unfortunately I know nothing I type here will matter to you and the next time a thread exposing putin's brutality you will just likely post the same statement.
It's understandable to be confused by it, I'm not sure why it makes you angry.
Even if you're familiar with the idea that some portion of the population is hierarchy/authoritarian prone, it makes you ask why. Then the answer just takes you one step deeper - that they like to see others suffer. Why? Because it makes them feel like they have it better than someone else, and that feels good. Well why does that make them feel good? Etc.
When you drill down enough you always get to "that's just the way it is", which isn't satisfying.
We are prone to that because God made humans in a way so we would bow down and obey or something. That's why you al go back to your roots. Lucifer gave you a way to prevent that or something. I unno, I am no expert with the lore of humanity. I am just an alien watcher. /S
I don't think there is any benefit in trying to justify bigotry as there are almost as many reasons as there are bigots.
Did they have bad family lives? Probably, most of us have nowadays, but I know plenty of people that have gone through some harrowing shit and it doesn't make them want to erase trans people.
I mean, you can go ahead and spend as much mental energy as you want reviewing every possible thing that led them down the path of enjoying the suffering of others, but I don't see in any way how that is practical in curbing the damage they are doing to the fabric of our society.
People who dream of violence against innocents are monsters and I have no ethical or moral responsibility to consider the cause of the week they claim is behind their antisocial behavior.
The ones closest to him in his inner circle are very incentive to be loyal as many of them got rich, and their wealth depends, on Putin's blessing. Those who don't, like Prighozhin, get made an example of and have their private planes mysteriously fall from the sky.
That entire circus tells you all you need to know about how pooty poot keeps his subordinates in line, thanks for reminding everyone about it. It needs to be more public.
do not underestimate Russian conservatives
They're just like our conservatives but go to jail less for murdering gay and trans people.
Propaganda, fear and other things.
Nice privilege you got here . . . Be a shame if anything were to happen to it, y’know. Like in russia.
I was aware of my own ignorance on the topic, and maybe my words weren’t clear or concise enough for your liking, but it was very much a comment intended to receive answers, opinions, and viewpoints so that I could educate myself
But your random slap on the wrist was super effective and was a crucial excercise. Good job.