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China must stop aiding Russia if it seeks good relations with West, NATO says (ptv-news.com.pk)

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[-] Eideen@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

Why limit one self to only one side, when you can play both?

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

[-] killea@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

You're not supposed to tell us you're playing both sides!

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 4 months ago

"Gonna do something about it? No? Like the taste of cheap definitely-not-made-by-slave-labor goods too much? That's what we thought."

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

Well I don't think it does, so that's an easy decision for them. They want to be just friendly enough that we keep buying their stuff and educating their youth.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah, we buy all our stuff from them, no way we'd actually impose meaningful sanctions.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

We can’t. We sent some much production there we should worry that China may put sanctions on us. It’s why we shouldn’t have allowed manufacturing to move there.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

That's not the reason for the trade war and embargoes.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

why would they want that?

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

They'd like to keep exporting their goods

[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

they would, but have the entire rest of the world if the west proves too antagonistic to their interests, they are also maneuvering their economy to their own markets. its convenient but not smart to be relying too hard on their opponents in a cold war.

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

The West is significantly richer than most other countries. The countries outside the west that are also wealthy have deep trade connections with the West. These connections may be so that China may consider them effectively 'the West's - Japan, South Korea, Australia, Singapore etc.

China tries to expand it's trading partners outside the West with its belt and trade initiative. But that's expensive and controversial. As it often involves corruption and abuse carried out by Chinese businesses. It doesn't appear as bad as 1800s colonisers, but in light of today's sensibilities China often comes out badly.

It's still wise to build connections with growing economies. Often because the population is large and is set to become larger. However, China's aggressive posture has destroyed relations with one of it nearest and largest growing economy India. India's relations with the West isn't great, it currently goes between Russia and the West. I think mainly to ensure advanced weapon supply in the event of escalations with China.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

the west in its entirety is just 15% of the planets population, suffering from recession more and more, and about to erupt in war. china has pretty much a third of the worlds population, and getting richer by the week. i'm sorry but the writing is on the wall here.

and as someone who lives in a place contemplated by the belt and road, no, we never really seen that much improvement in infrastructure all at once, despite what your propaganda may say.

india has bad relations with china because they have a trump-equivalent as president now. they have been trying to deescalate for years now with india.

[+] Paragone@lemmy.world -17 points 4 months ago

China knows the Republicans are going to gut NATO,

China doesn't care,

China is committed to breaking the West's dominion, which is why it's making Russia into its vassal-state, totally-dependent-on-China, but with accountability/responsibility not having any direct-line into China, in the 1st place..

Once Trump's finished destroying the US, then .. then the real action will begin, militarily.

Give that about 1 dozen, or less, years, to occur.

ContinuousHammerfall's when the NATO-allied countries have been gutted, bankrupted, torn-apart through "populist dictatorship", etc, and suddenly the triple-alliance throws EVERYthing they've got against us, to break our capability...

Between now & then should be 2 more stages:

economic-collapse, which Trump uses to gain & secure dictatorship,

& the butchering of NATO & the West, economically, which should last .. roughly 7 or 8 years, or so.

Once those're done, then the WW3 tantrum/pogrom can begin.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

1 dozen

You can just say 12 if you like.

[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -13 points 4 months ago

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[-] zeppo@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He would leave NATO as soon as possible. No normal politician has ever suggested this before because it's completely insane. It's obvious Putin bullshit since it's 100% against the best interests of the US and Europe, and only benefits Russia. It's also a distortion that the EU doesn't fund their part in NATO... a few countries spend less than they should, the rest are perfectly fine on that metric.

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