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Sweden moves one step closer to NATO membership after a Turkish parliamentary committee gives approval (apnews.com)

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[-] 332@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

We've caught on to how this works now. I anticipate about two more iterations of tedious, drawn out flip-flopping and misinformation during the remaining steps before we are either finally let in or the whole thing fizzles out.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

There is already very heavy pressure on Turkey to let Sweden in, so I don't see this having any chance to fizzle out, Turkey may be a valuable member, but there are limits to their value.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Zero chance NATO lets the Black Sea and Bosporus + Dardanelles fall into russia’s sphere.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

Black Sea or Baltic Sea.

Get both and you've cut off 2/3 of Russia's major ports. (facing west)

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think getting out of Mediterranean at Gibraltar is worth more than getting into the black sea. If Turkey wants to play hardball with EU USA and NATO, they will quickly realize how much they are the underdog, and no idiot dictator shouting his stupidities can prevent that.
Turkey is not playing by the rules, but is exploiting a situation, despite the it would benefit Turkey too to have Sweden in NATO.
If Turkey can't respect the mutual interests of an international institution they themselves benefit from, they can go fuck themselves.
Some things can be bought at too high a price.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

It’s very different. Turkey completely controls access to the Black Sea, which ties into several MAJOR river networks across Europe. The strait of Gibraltar is much wider, and also not controlled by a single nation, so it’s far less feasible to block, for a lot of reasons.

[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

There is no limit to the geographic value of Turkey against Russia

[-] Valthorn@feddit.nu 1 points 9 months ago

And after Turkey is done we get to live it all over again with Hungary

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — The Turkish Parliament’s foreign affairs committee gave its consent to Sweden’s bid to join NATO on Tuesday, drawing the previously non-aligned Nordic country closer to membership in the Western military alliance.

The Turkish parliament’s foreign affairs committee had begun discussing Sweden’s membership in NATO last month.

The meeting however, was adjourned after legislators from Erdogan’s ruling party submitted a motion for a postponement on grounds that some issues needed more clarification and that negotiations with Sweden had not “matured” enough.

Sweden and Finland abandoned their traditional positions of military nonalignment to seek protection under NATO’s security umbrella, following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

Finland joined the alliance in April, becoming NATO’s 31st member, after Turkey’s parliament ratified the Nordic country’s bid.

NATO requires the unanimous approval of all existing members to expand, and Turkey and Hungary are the only countries that have been holding out.

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[-] flussgeistbusiness@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Top!

[-] ashar@infosec.pub 0 points 9 months ago

Time for the Sverige Democrats to say something stupid, bigoted and offensive to Türkiye

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