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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by galaxi@lemm.ee to c/technology@beehaw.org

I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until Adobe, and therefore my job, required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn't the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.

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[-] ninbreaker@kbin.social 117 points 1 year ago

I feel like Adobe is one of the pioneers for DRM lol, They've always kept all their things under some kind of paywall.

[-] Riyria@sopuli.xyz 107 points 1 year ago

Adobe reactivated my subscription without my permission and now won’t refund me. They have records of my subscription being cancelled in May but can’t explain why I was suddenly billed again in August.

[-] skribe@aussie.zone 103 points 1 year ago
[-] DeanFogg@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

Hello Bank? Yes I'd like to issue a stop payment

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[-] Boinketh@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago

That's fraud.

[-] TokyoMonsterTrucker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 101 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is seriously deserving of an antitrust investigation. An open web is essential.

*Edit: referring to Chrome and its derivatives, not Adobe. Alphabet/Google has been begging for antitrust action for years.

[-] nakal@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

Adobe has already proved they don't understand web technologies when creating Flash.

[-] min_fapper@iusearchlinux.fyi 61 points 1 year ago

They didn't create Flash. They bought a company called Macromedia who had created Flash.

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[-] JBloodthorn@kbin.social 92 points 1 year ago

What's extra stupid about these, is most of the time just using a user agent switcher to make the site think you're on chrome or opera makes it work just fine.

[-] infamousbelgian@waste-of.space 20 points 1 year ago

I do understand it. These are browsers that they decided during development that are not supported. Not supported means not tested by a full QA team for months. And users are generally stupid, soba simple warning (use at your own risk) is something that does not work.

So they decide to just not support the other browsers.

To be clear, I am definitely not a fan of Adobe of this mechanism, just explaining.

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[-] kbity@kbin.social 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The NHS' virtual appointment service in the UK doesn't support Firefox either, only Chrome, Safari and Edge. The dark days of "please view this website in Internet Explorer 6" are creeping closer to the present again. I hate the modern internet.

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[-] Redsylum@beehaw.org 78 points 1 year ago

"We can't track you using this browser. Please use one of the following that we have agreements with."

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 77 points 1 year ago

I hate them more for pioneering Software as a Service rent seeking crap. Why own software when you can become a revenue stream for Adobe. Die in a fire.

This is crap too tho.

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[-] stefenauris@pawb.social 69 points 1 year ago

I don't understand why Adobe was allowed to survive as a company when Flash player had like 500 security vulnerabilities daily.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago

and Acrobat too.

[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago

Because many companies and users were deliberately turned into illiterates about tech by big tech

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

When were they ever tech literate?

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[-] azerial@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 year ago

Could you just get an extension that changes your user agent? They exist. I wonder if it would work.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago

I bet it would because Firefox supports pretty much everything Chrome supports. Sometimes a little better.

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

The Adobe message has nothing to do with the technical limitations of your browser and everything to do with their monopolistic nature as a company.

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[-] djquadratic@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I can’t believe I never thought about that - gotta try this later today

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 1 year ago

Adobe has been on the DRM bandwagon since forever.

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 38 points 1 year ago

Last Adobe product I used was CS6. That's what the company stuck with, presumably, to avoid shit like this.

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[-] iloverocks@feddit.de 32 points 1 year ago

You could use a user agent switcher to pretend that you are running chrome, edge or anything else

[-] min_fapper@iusearchlinux.fyi 15 points 1 year ago

Not if Google's web DRM thing goes through

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[-] vector@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

Go Affinity/Serif. Haven't looked back.

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[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So the inevitable future begins. This will be the standard web very soon.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

Only if people continue to give money to Adobe.

[-] Neve8028@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Genuinely can't see a future where people collectively ditch adobe. They make industry standard products that companies, educational institutions, professionals, etc... buy.

[-] paddythegeek@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

I used to be responsible for the app portfolio in a 1000+ user company, and every 3 years or so I would go back out to the market and try hard to replace Adobe, just for PDF operations. Couldn’t do it because so many products were integrated with them, often in ways we could not reproduce with other products. The best we could do would be to pay for a different product for 1/3 of the cost for Adobe, and then still end up having to carry a significant number of Adobe licenses for cases when integration failed with the other product. No-win situation, and just easier to stay with the evil we knew.

I hate them.

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[-] sanjanaagutha@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago

Google is worrying me with their ever-encroaching strategy of limiting internet access through DRM

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[-] SnowBunting@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

This is honestly why I have more then two browsers installed. But it is sad this DRM stuff is spreading.

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

What happens if you spoof the user agent?

[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 18 points 1 year ago

Oh, this shit again.

Remember when websites required the Internet Explorer? It didn't follow Web Standards back then.

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[-] Im28xwa@lemdro.id 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What in the actual fuck is this, thank you for bringing this up I will never use an Adobe product ever

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

Thankfully I am not required to use any Adobe products. Seeing this would seriously insult me.

[-] skycat@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

Digital RESTRICTIONS management / DRM is the core of Adobe

[-] CrystalEYE@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

@galaxi What version of FF are you using? I can access Adobe Express perfectly fine (116.0.1 on Win 11 Pro)

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[-] redcalcium 15 points 1 year ago

If safari is supported, then there is no reason to not supporting Firefox. What key features supported by safari required by adobe that's not supported by Firefox?

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[-] CurlyWurlies4All@prxs.site 14 points 1 year ago

I've run into multiple websites like this in the last 6 months. It sucks.

[-] MSids@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I got in on the Kickstarter for the Abode (not a misspelling) software suite by Stuart Semple and am hoping that when they release that it at least beats Darktable. Also, Darktable is pretty great as a free alternative to Lightroom.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/culturehustle/abode-a-suite-of-world-class-design-and-photography-tools

Edit: I named him because he created the Freetone color palette when Pantone upped their license fee on Adobe. He also made a few paints and sells them at reasonable prices as an accessible alternative to more expensive paints.

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[-] rom428@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

I fear this kind of thing will become a trend.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago

User-agent switcher to get around it?

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