Israeli intelligence leak details extent of warnings over Hamas attack (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Immediately after the attack, people were suggesting that Israeli intelligence must have had some clue this would happen, and speculated that Netanyahu's government deliberately let it go ahead as a pretext for attacking Gaza. Now it looks like they did have warning but they just screwed up.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

People say that but ignore that malice does exist so that can't always be the case and In this case the dudes literally been paying hamas he's not an idiot he's just a zionist asshole.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It doesn’t look like they screwed up, it looks like they’re denying being informed about it, which looks like they’re hiding something.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

Since it ruined his judicial reforms which he's been hyper focusing on, I don't think it's likely he knew and let it go ahead. Maybe he didn't believe the scope of it, but I don't know.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The claim made by Israel’s Channel 12 on Monday evening was based on leaked emails from the Israeli military’s 8200 cyber-intelligence unit discussing the warnings.

Those emails revealed that a senior officer who reviewed the intelligence considered the danger of a massive surprise attack by Hamas across the Gaza border to be “an imaginary scenario”.

Further emails leaked to Channel 12 suggest the initial warning was corroborated a few days later with evidence that other Hamas units were involved in similar training aimed at apparently different targets.

Other very senior officers, including the head of the 8200 unit, have suggested in briefings to Israeli journalists that they were not shown V’s warning, despite the email chain discussing it.

One report suggested that when the head of the IDF’s military intelligence directorate, Maj Gen Aharon Haliva, visited V’s unit, the warning was not passed on to him, and Haliva left with an assessment suggesting that “[the Hamas leader] Yahya Sinwar has no intention of causing the situation to deteriorate [and that] Hamas has instructed its operatives on the ground to show restraint”.

Haaretz described V’s warning six months before 7 October that Hamas had completed training exercises simulating a raid on kibbutzim and IDF outposts on the Israeli side of the border.

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