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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[-] shoomba@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago

If they don’t want to text you because you don’t have an iPhone they’re not friends you want to have.

[-] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Seen this sentiment that green bubbles = bad a few times online but never it's never come up for me. I assume this is a teen - early adult specific issue where the idea is mostly to be part of the group

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's been happening in high schools, to the point teens are bullied and pushed out of peer groups if they have Androids. It's frankly disgusting that apple willingly creates this division to profit off teenagers bullying each other, and they don't get called out for it enough.

But in the larger picture, it's definitely going to be more common among the young, because iPhones themselves are ubiquitous among the younger. It's something the tech space is slowly starting realize: Apple has almost total market dominance among the rising demographic, and this has led to increasing tech illiteracy due to the way Apple designs its software, and inability/refusal to learn anything else. That is a huge problem for the tech industry when the only thing they can do to find customers is dumb their software down to appeal to people that don't know how to use anything other than iOS

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Perhaps in the US but it's not so pronounced elsewhere. I think I only know one person with an iPhone.

[-] menemen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's still about 30% here in Germany. It is rising though. And I think this is because of "clever" marketing. The highschools here in Germany started forcing parents to buy Ipads for their children a couple of years ago. Children with low income parents get it from the city for free. Nominally it is, because it is "easier to maintain", but I honestly really doubt this.

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah easier to maintain lmao. You mean to spy on their students.

These schools are using iPads in place of computer labs. I’m old enough to have actually managed a computer lab, and I can tell you that a fleet of managed iPads is way easier to maintain than a computer lab.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But you don't understand! The USA is the entire world! Everybody else in the world is just like Americans or wants to be!🙄

I know five people with iPhones here. I interact with almost three orders of magnitude more people than five...

[-] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

You interact with 5000 people?

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

About that, yes. Not in-depth and not each day, obviously, but I have quite a sizable crowd I deal with on a regular basis. Comes from having a lot of former students I keep in touch with.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone 30 and under at my office prefers Macs, to the point of bringing in their own machines to do 90% of their work and falling back to the Windows laptops issued by IT for the remainder.

[-] eee@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

If anybody wants to judge me based on the brand of electronics I use, my favorite band or the brand of clothes I wear, I have no interest in interacting with them lol. This whole consumerist worship-culture is just toxic.

[-] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I think this must be a cultural thing because no one in the UK sends SMS messages. Everyone just uses WhatsApp or signal or telegram. I'm android and have literally never had anyone mention the colour of my bubble. I didn't know this was a thing!

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I think it’s mostly an US thing. The rest of the world has moved away from SMS.

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago

If you live anywhere outside of the US, the question is irrelevant, because everyone uses whatsapp etc.

Within the US, if you are over the age of 30, it probably doesn't matter.

if you are under the age of 30 AND in the US, I mean, if someone does judge you for it, you at least have a great way to filter shitty people out of your life lol.

[-] ZestycloseReception8@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I live in the US and this was never a problem for me? If it is then these people aren't really your friends. Think of it as a litmus test for finding friends.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 year ago

I did run into some friends who were just surprised people bought phones outside of iPhone. But they were still my friends. It didn't matter to them they just hadn't thought of a world without iPhone users

[-] ZestycloseReception8@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

no I'm not saying that there aren't non ahole iphone users but there outliers it seems like. I guess me and you got lucky because it seems like for the average teenager in the states your "friends" treat you poorly if you have an Android.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 year ago

in my experience nobody texts anymore anyway, its all signal or some other messenger.

[-] ZestycloseReception8@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I mean I was born in 98 so I'm just barely Gen Z and even when I was in middle school and high school SMS and MMS was the predominant way students communicated with each other. this was around mid 2010s so not that long ago HS and middle. schoolers were using SMS. the amount of people using non SMS messaging services is a lot less than you think. the most. The USA has 259mil active users sending 2 trillion texts every year. as. of 2023 in the USA signal has a 100mil downloads but only 40mil active users. the two most. popular non SMS service in the USA are Facebook messenger at 52% of the population using it and WhatsApp at 25%. so no it's not all signal or some other messenger not by a long shot

[-] habanhero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but it's a feature, not a bug.

It's a super low investment and quick way to identify people you should avoid.

[-] IverCoder@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If your "friends" make so much fuss over text bubbles, probably the best course of action is to find better friends.

[-] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is a pain in group chats. That one green bubble means the chat falls back to basic text. That means I effectively cannot send a video (possible, but unusable quality).

At that point I would rather use something like WhatsApp. Which is fine if everyone in the group has it. At least it is cross platform.

But I am seriously considering buying my sister, who has a cheap husband, an iPhone just so she does not mess up a family group chat.

[-] Mando@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

iPhone user Most of the world uses Whatsapp, so this is a non issue for me

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I don't care what phone you have, but if you have an iPhone, I will assume you are an idiot by default until proven otherwise.

[-] Deuces@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I prefer android's ability to customize my phone to the point that I can break it, but I respect apples security and can see why some people would prioritize that

[-] lumberjacked@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I have a friend who said he was left out of a lot of group chat with his roommates because he was the green bubble. He switched to iPhone and they still were meeting up without him.

That’s when he realized it was him, not the color of his bubble…

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I mean this came up in a recent group chat we had where I asked who the green text user was. It's not that we didn't continue the text. It's that we have to realize that we are using plain text messages and that our iMessage features no longer work. If your friends don't text you because you have an android, they're not your friends.

[-] LightDelaBlue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

i only use android. if someone disciminate you ofr a stupid bubbles color. wth you do with that person???

[-] solstice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if it is possible for me to care less what type of phone somebody uses.

If I found out somebody was judging me based on my phone I would seriously consider breaking up with them.

I'm surprised and dismayed we are even having this conversation, and some of the other replies are deeply troubling.

[-] FxtrtTngoWhisky@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you think you're better than me because you have an iPhone and I run an Android, I don't want to talk to you anyway.

People are so fucking petty and elitist over the dumbest fucking things.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Apple is deliberately not supporting the global standard of RCS for exactly thai reason. They want green bubbles to stay.

[-] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 year ago

I live in a country where the dollar value of iPhone makes them more of a luxury item, sought by people of means or by hipsters.

Most people here tend to communicate via WhatsApp. People with iPhones probably discriminate others for many other reasons before even reaching the bubble color for messages, so they self-select out of the lives of most people.

[-] AncillaryJustice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

This is some sort of childish tech-classist B.S. Like you wouldn't talk to a friend because of the shoes they wore or the car they drove. Who cares about people like that?

[-] primalanimist@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

It's not a tech-classist thing, it's a human thing. At our core, we are tribal. We take sides. Android vs. iPhone. Windows vs. Mac. Linux vs. everyone. Sports team A vs. Sports team B. Republican vs. Democrat. Musk vs. Zuck. Cats vs. Dogs. Everything. We take sides on everything.

[-] 6mementomori@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

username checks out, yyyyiiiikes...

[-] Mane25@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's a US vs Europe thing but as a European, most messaging (for better or worse, probably worse since it's Meta) is done via whatsapp, where messages appear the same for iPhone and Android users, if somebody messages me through SMS I'd probably think it was a scam or they're really old, no-one I know uses SMS anymore.

[-] Shiroa@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

It is in fact, a US vs Europe thing. Stateside "SMS" is ubiquitous. I put quotes because it's not really SMS anymore. It's either RCS between Android users or iMessage between iPhone users. The only time SMS actually gets used is between Androids and iPhones, because as other commenters in this thread mention. Apple refuses to implement RCS on their devices in a way that is compatible with non-Apple devices.

[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Apple refuses to implement RCS on their devices in a way that is compatible with non-Apple devices.

I think it's important to note that "RCS" in this context actually refers to a proprietary messaging platform by Google, running on Google's servers. There is no industry-standard RCS in use in America; it's just Google's forked version, which in practice is exactly as proprietary as iMessage. Nobody should expect Apple to implement someone else's proprietary messaging platform on their devices, especially one run by Google, which has the worst history of managing messaging platforms of any company on the planet.

[-] JackBinimbul@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I'm an Android user and I have no idea what any of this means.

[-] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

When on Apple and texting another apple user the text bubbles are one color. When texting any other brand it shows up another color. So iPhone users can act like dicks because they are the in crowd when messaging eachother.

[-] BeardedSingleMalt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So iPhone users can act like dicks because they are the in crowd when messaging each other.

They can interact with their messages in more ways than others. Direct message reactions (like, heart) and they can see the dot-dot-dot when another iPhoner was typing. I actually had a girl give me a hard time over this because she was iPhone and I'm android.

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely definitely yes.

In high school and continuing into university, everyone would play the iMessage/Snapchat games that only work with iOS. The few Android users, including me, were 2nd class citizens.

Using Android has absolutely cost me several potential friendships and looking back I genuinely should've spent the money and bought the inferior iPhone.

[-] WiildFiire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If they didn't want to be friends with you because you couldn't play pool through a texting app, they weren't worth being friends with in the first place.

[-] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 year ago

Using Android has absolutely cost me several potential friendships

Why would you want to have people like that as friends?

If anything, I use that as information. If trash doesn't take itself out, you have information to do it yourself.

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This is literally 80% of people in my high school and 60% of people at my university though. It's insane how pervasive Apple has become.

90-95% of people at my high school had iPhones, and 85-90% do at my university. 50% of people have AirPods for both cases. And these numbers are only trending upwards. Apple is unstoppable.

[-] Xallec@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

No, you should not have. Those "friends" did you a favor by showing you how shallow they were.

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