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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I would like to sell my soul in exchange for dominion over the Earth!

"Sorry dude... not with that soul.

Best I can do is assistant manager at the Arby's down the street. I'll even throw in some heroin, you're gonna need it."

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A doll's house and a goat isn't far off, keep it up

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is such a pet peeve of mine.

Why are anglo writers obsessed with using latin as some ancient, mystical language? Why would Latin be tied to magic in any way? Do they realize that Latin was spoken all through Europe for millenia and its vulgar form evolved into tons of current languages? Or that people were using latin in churches, courtrooms and universtities all the way up to the 20th century? Latin was an optional in my high school. I took two years.

If random Latin words could do magic all of Europe would have been constantly exploding. Newspapers would be covering the latest magic volcano to pop up in Southern France. World War II movies would include accidental summonings.

Also, for us romance language speakers it sounds vaguely understandable, so the weird things they use for spells sound goofy as hell. I'm not sure if that's better or worse than using fake Latin-sounding made up stuff as in Harry Potter.

[-] spauldo@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

Latin was the lingua franca for the educated western world for centuries. Texts on alchemy, mysticism, and religion were all written in Latin. Church rituals were performed in Latin.

Most magic in fiction has its roots in the past. What language would be more fitting?

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[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago
[-] MudMan@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Now that is an acceptable answer.

If you don't speak Latin, Italian, Romanian, Spanish, Portuguese or French.

Because if you do it mostly sounds like either Sunday mass or an English tourist trying to order a drink by reading from a guidebook.

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Nobody speaks any of those languages. They just pretend to when the germanics are around so we think the roman empire is still strong.

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Okay, well, if you're just gonna tell everybody we have to cut you out of the mailing list now.

[-] skulblaka@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

Well that's just the thing though. People (allegedly) used to do loads of magic, now they dont. Makes sense the spells and rituals would be in the language of the time.

Also lots of the books and grimoires we still have access to are in Latin or translated from Latin. So there's a connection there too.

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Wait, are these last couple of comments supposed to be in-universe or in real life? Because it's confusing either way.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Alastair Crowley? Gardener? Eta: The Catholic Church?

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Weren't both of those people English?

Do English people think the Catholic Church is magic? I know they sometimes wear dresses, but their hats are round, not pointy. Completely different thing.

And yeah, they say they are turning wafers into human flesh, but I've had the wafers and trust me, they don't taste like chicken at all.

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[-] JizzmasterD@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

Fuck you.

Love,

Black Phillip

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean... we've just met, buy me a drink first?

Genuinely don't know where this is coming from.

Oh, hey, I Googled it. It's a goat thing. Still don't get it because I haven't seen the thing. But yeah, okay. Goat.

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[-] bouh@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

In many cases you don't need an obscure language to do magic. Latin is merely the language in which the sorcery books were written. And they were written because it was the language of the scholars, which magic practitioners pretended to be.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is such a pet peeve of mine.

It's not a peeve, it's a goat.

[-] Quik@infosec.pub 3 points 11 months ago

Actually, Europe wouldn’t have stopped exploding to this very day.

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

It would have gone from constant explosions every day with particularly intense bouts of Sunday explosions to a school or university exploding every couple of weeks.

The Vatican would be a smoldering crater basically all the time, though.

[-] unreachable@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

harry potter in today's world: "electro petroleum!"

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe the revival in a few centuries will try to do the same with English-sounding fake words because in the future they sound magical, too.

"Flyare alting!"

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[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

You get free goats when you study latin? Why didn't I know this?!?

[-] GewoehnlicherHamster@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But my friend often said he dont has a goat on his latin lesson. (Unfortunately this Joke only makes Sense in German, but ill leave it here anyway)

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Live large! Say it in German! We don't mind!

[-] GewoehnlicherHamster@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ne, ich hab kein Bock!

(For anyone curious: This literally translates to "No, i dont have a goat" but is a usual phrase for "I dont want to")

[-] KraeuterRoy@feddit.de 12 points 11 months ago
[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago

People called 'Romanes' they go the house?

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Domus? Nominative?

[-] BlasserJunge@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

SATANAS DIABOLICA

[-] Hotchip69@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Don’t say Cardi B’s real name out loud unless you want to meet Black Phillip.

[-] Rbear@eviltoast.org 5 points 11 months ago

"oh, shit" 😐

[-] oillut@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I prefer Pig Latin for all the pork

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

So this is a you summoned a demon reference but instead it's just a plain old goat, right?

Not some linguistic thing where a lot of Latin has Baaaa~?

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but I'm failing to see the difference between a goat and a demon.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I can eat and milk a goat...

I'd be hesitant on doing either to a demon... unless we're talking certain anime here...

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