Sunak may ban cigarettes in UK for future generations (www.reuters.com)

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[-] DLSchichtl@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] sagrotan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

What you said. Exactly.

[-] misanthropy@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

If I want to smoke cigarettes you not liking them shouldn't get in the way of that. Some of us don't see a long term future in this shit world. A smoke is five minutes of peace. All substances should be legal and regulated.

[-] DLSchichtl@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] misanthropy@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

Who shit in your cereal, asshole? I vape if I'm out and about, because I'm not an asshole and realize others don't want to smell cigarettes. Nothing I said indicated I'm out smoking amongst people, I simply said if I choose to smoke, your moral panic shouldn't step on that, because it doesn't fucking affect you when I smoke in my car or on my porch with some coffee or a beer. I smoke cigarettes infrequently.

And no, I don't toss my butts everywhere either. Eat me. I'm free to hurt myself and mind my own business, like you should.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I vape if I'm out and about, because I'm not an asshole and realize others don't want to smell cigarettes

Can I let you in on a little secret. Its still very smellable.

The sweet flavours on the vape juice even more so. Some go so far as to trigger my asthma 😕.

More so than regular cigs but that could because growing up my patents between them smoked around 80 a day and just had to get used to it.

[-] misanthropy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I get that. I use a nicotine salt vape out and about that puts out a minimal amount of vapor to mitigate that. Sorry to hear that. I really do try to be courteous though I get plenty of people don't give a fuck.

To be honest, I wfh, and I pretty much only go out to go to the grocery.

Best of luck on the asthma

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I have been around smokers all my days. Hell would even go out with fhe smoker in our group if they went outside to continue the conversation. I don't know what it is about those particular vape liquids could be a particular chemical or just hitting the back of my throat with such a pungent smell just right.

I'm more or less fine with the asthma having it 40 yrs at this point. Although I just got my arse kicked at my annual check for not using my reliever as much as I should.

In terms of op I don't hate this. It doesn't affect those legally smoking now unlike when the Scottish government raised it to 18 from 16 making something addictive and legal for some to addictive and illegal. That shit was just cruel

[-] misanthropy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

There's only actually a couple flavors I've found over the years that I've been able to tolerate honestly. A lot of them just taste straight chemical.

I assume you mean inhaler? I was under the impression those were just as needed.. I had asthma as a kid but I grew out of it luckily.

But how is a ban really going to help? When has prohibition of mentally altering substances actually worked?

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There's 2 types of inhaler

1 is preventative and usually a steroid of some sort. the other is as needed like you describe that's the releaver.

Unless the attack was bad enough that it was a fight to breath I'd just stop what i was doing and focus on my breathing till It passed. This was bad I have been told.

As for the ban who can say most of the sales here are packs rather than lose tobacco fir rolling. Eventually it will get unprofitable for the tobacco companies to sell here.

Tbh until the introduction of vaping there had been a downward trend in smoking numbers all my days.

[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

100% agree, tbh most countries dont know how to handle drugs...look at Portugal for a good example on how to do it.

Either way yes we should let people decide what they do with their lives. We don't need no one banning bleach cuz a bunch of people decided to drink it too. We didn't need them around either way.

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You won't mind the pints of arsenic in the pub then.

[-] misanthropy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

bring on the sweet release

[-] DulceMaria@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

Does he have a financial stake in vaping?

[-] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

The tories took a £350k donation from a vape company this month.

[-] OGrumpyKitten@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Huh... that tracks

[-] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Guess he doesn't have any investments in Tobacco, or he has investments in Vaping.

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It'll be seen as punishing the youth, which will bring his core electorate joy.

[-] RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Isn’t every “ban” for future generations?

[-] wwaxen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

"which include a ban on selling tobacco to anyone born on or after Jan. 1, 2009"

[-] diviledabit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Currently as one becomes 18 it becomes legal to buy tobacco products. Banning for future generations means that this stops being the case and nobody currently under 18 will gain the right to do so on their 18th birthday.

I can't imagine this being legally sound - that some citizens have the right to decide for themselves whether to smoke but others don't.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Sunak

future generations

lol

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Very rare based moment for the UK government. Shows you that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[-] Flyswat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Think about the lost revenue! Insane!

[-] febra@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yet again governmental overreach. If people want to smoke, let them smoke. It's none of your business to babysit adults. I hate it when the government is trying to push people into little boxes. And I am not even a smoker. I hate smoking and think it's disgusting. At at the same time, I don't want the state to control every single piece of my life. If I ever decide to smoke, I shall have the right to do so and decide what I put in my body.

[-] fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That’s a single thing I could agree with him.

Smoking is utterly disgusting.

[-] TheActualDevil@sffa.community 4 points 1 year ago

Why do people always do that? I agree it would be a good move, but because smoking is unhealthy and addictive and it's existence in our society makes it collectively worse. But here I keep seeing people just say they're glad because they think cigarettes are icky.

[-] fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

Tobacco is ‘icky’ and also usually a red flag for poorly though-out people.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Sept 22 (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is considering introducing measures that would ban the next generation from ever being able to buy cigarettes, The Guardian reported on Friday, citing government sources.

Sunak is looking at anti-smoking measures similar to laws New Zealand announced last year, which include a ban on selling tobacco to anyone born on or after Jan. 1, 2009, the report said.

"We want to encourage more people to quit and meet our ambition to be smokefree by 2030, which is why we have already taken steps to reduce smoking rates," a British government spokesperson said in an emailed response to Reuters.

Those measures include free vape kits, a voucher scheme to incentivise pregnant women to quit, and consulting on mandatory cigarette pack inserts, the spokesperson added.

Britain in May announced it would close a loophole that let retailers give free samples of vapes to children in a clampdown on e-cigarettes.

Separately, councils in England and Wales in July called on the government to ban the sale of single-use vapes by 2024 on both environmental and health grounds.

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