Turkey leader Erdogan will back Sweden joining Nato - Stoltenberg (www.bbc.co.uk)

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[-] 332@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can't fool us Erdogan, we've seen this move before.

By tomorrow he'll have new demands. He'll demand Sweden form a space agency and plant the Turkish flag on the moon or something like that, mark my words.

[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So I guess Turkey is getting some shiny new F16s?

[-] panasoniclizard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

[-] orientalsniper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

lmao, thought it was a joke.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wait it isn't?

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone sort of figured he would once he won his rigged elections again. Gods I hope we don’t let him join the EU.

[-] InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Huge democratic deficit and do they really follow European customs and values?

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Quite the shock when Erdogan tried to blackmail his country into the EU. I hope Sweden will also not give in when it comes to burning religious books.

I would say there is a huge difference in culture and values when comparing to those people from Turkey who are very conservative or religious. We even have some here who voted in Germany for Erdogan!

But the difference isn’t that big with secular, non-conservative people. It is like Turkey has two sides.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

European values are irrelevant for being a NATO member. But I believe being a democracy is a requirement, but USA is a somewhat flawed democracy too. But hen again no democracy is perfect.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Lol wow. Erdogan was singing a very different tune less than 8 hours ago. I’d guess that some very pointed threats around security guarantees and future arms sales were made by the rest of the alliance for him to do an about-face that quickly.

[-] Hairypooper@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine he's someone to strongarm. Nor would it be good for the alliance if members are forced into accepting things they don't want.

I'd imagine he got his desired concessions, or it was mostly just bluster for internal politics.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I think the US delegation took him aside and said something along the lines of “alright chucklefuck, going forward, if you want parts and technical support for any of the massive amounts of extremely advanced military shit we’ve sold you for decades, you’re going to stop fucking around on the Sweden accession”.

[-] Hairypooper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeahhh that's not how diplomacy works. That's how edgy high school kids would imagine running NATO.

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