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[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 2 days ago

There's 3 variables and 1 equation. This is unsolvable.

Since we're just making shit up anyway

Assume k=0 and n is the last natural number. Solved.

[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's called a literal equation. The problem doesn't state which variable to solve for, but the assumption here is that it is x. Solving literal equations is a basic part of mathematics courses.

I'm a mathematician and I can't recall a time I've ever heard the term "literal equation." When I was in grade school the instructions were always "solve for x" if x was the variable being solved for.

[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I teach secondary and postsecondary math courses. The term "literal equation" was used in Texas where I taught for 17 years. The Algebra 1 state standard A.12E says that students are expected to "solve mathematic and scientific formulas, and other literal equations, for a specified variable." I also taught college undergrad courses in Texas, including College Algebra, and I don't recall ever seeing the the term used there, but I used it in class because my students were familiar with it. Now I teach in Oregon, and the term is not a part of this state's standards from what I can tell.

[-] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Maybe it's not universal but in school literal equation basically meant there were letters instead of numbers.

It's the term we use for instance when going from the equation of a line like y=3x+2 to lines in general y=ax+b (a and b in ℝ)

And i agree it's a lot better to specify to solve for x (because you can solve for anything or have multiple variables).

Although x being a variable, and solving for it would be the most logical assumption.

I want to believe this is real, but I'm having trouble deciphering how one would "solve" this equation given no variable is referenced outside of the question and k is already isolated and terms simplified.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

i’m guessing they want you to solve for x by rearranging and then taking arcsin

[-] schema@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Considering the handwriting, it's probably all written by the same person. But even if it wasn't, it is very badly written if you had to solve it by making assumptions, imo.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well the "student" and "grader" use the exact same pen and writing style...

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

How fake do you want it?

Yes

[-] cloudless@lemmy.cafe 51 points 2 days ago

Grading your own work is stupid.

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

K, but unless information isn’t shown regarding n this is unsolvable.

[-] sag@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

WTF bro, There is 3 variables.

Wait? NVM Wait?

Today I did Calculus for 6 hour straight. So, don't mind me I am just tired.

[-] aggelalex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

In regards to x, x=arcsin(kn+1), where kn is between -2 and 0

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Would only work if the numerator was 𝑛 + sin 𝑥

[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

That's for AP. Elementary logic let's you divide willy nilly

[-] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 days ago

I cannot actually believe that back in the day, I understood what these were.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

so you don't understand sin anymore? or division?

[-] cheddar@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago
[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

You should sin more, 'cos you'll go to hell and there you can get a tan

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

I haven't had to do anything with sin, cos or tan in over 20 years and even back then it's a miracle I managed to pass my advanced math course considering I never understood what they were because it was so badly explained to us...

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Cos and Sin just return the X or Y values respectively around a circle of radius 1. So if my line starts at 0 degrees, X=1 Cos(0)=1 Sin(0)=0. I'll leave it to the reader to try 90 degrees.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

sin(x) and cos(x) return the side lengths of a triangle with hypotenuse 1 and angle x, like so:

I also was never taught this, which sucks because it's such a useful concept.

You can verify that if the angle (x) was 0, cos(x) would be 1, and sin(x) would be 0. If the angle was 90 degrees (vertical), then cos(x) would be 0 and sin(x) would be 1. If the angle was 45 degrees, cos(x) and sin(x) would have the same value, because the triangle sides would have the same length.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

But why?

See, I was taught this, but no one could every answer why sine and cosine worked the way they did.

This definition just explains how they work with triangles. What's the actual definition of each, and how was that derived? I can apply them all day long yet I still can't tell you what either one means.

I had the same issues with different kinds of equations, no one ever explained why you'd do a certain thing in a given step (e.g. Quadratic) even when I asked, repeatedly. The answer was always "you just do". Well that doesn't help with knowing when to apply a rule.

And that was my experience with any math, right through college (3 universities). Most teachers suck, but holy shit math teachers are down right moronic. They can't understand why students don't get it. Well, try actually teaching something for a fucking change.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Look up a diagram of a cosine and sine functions as they relate to a rotating circle.

E.g.: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Circle_cos_sin.gif

[-] TaviRider@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

Solve for 1:

1 = kn - sin x

[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

x = arcsin (kn - 1)

I've solved it. There you go. I hope you use this solution for something good.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It was already solved. For k.

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

There's a teacher with no sense of humour

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 41 points 2 days ago

There's no teacher. Everything on that paper was most likely written by a single person.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

All the "s"s do look very similar.

Source: I am the world's foremost forensic handwriting expert

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

I don't, it's just speculation, hence "most likely". I see similar handwriting and not a very plausible problem.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The ink does have a different color

[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

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