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[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 0 points 1 week ago

Shareholders need to get confortable not owning the value of their share.
Seriously, it in the name: they hold shares not their value.

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[-] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I for one appreciate that ubisoft chose the top down view of poop as their logo. it's the perfect symbol for everything they represent and they're incredibly brave for wearing it proudly on their chest.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

I thought it was symbolizing them circling the drain, at least when it comes to quality...

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Investors: You didn't do it sneaky enough! Shhhh

[-] Oneser@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

The 5 year price graph is much nicer to view.

I originally used the 5 year one but I thought it wouldn't be as "accurate" to their most recent disasters

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I was a huge fan of Ubisoft. I basically stopped playing any of their games after Assassins Creed 3. With the exception of AC: Black Flag, which I got from the high seas, ironically.

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I haven't played AC. My experience lies mostly in Far Cry. I got a free copy of Far Cry 3 with my Radeon HD 7770. Little did I know that's where the series would peak. It's one of the games I wish I could play for the first time again. Vaas is easily one of the best written and (and especially) acted bosses in a game ever. He's such a pain in your ass until you kill him, then the final boss sucks so much, you miss him.

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[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago

They could have got away still if they actually make good games

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Making good games is probably not as easy as it seems though.

you seem to be 300x more knowledgeable than the suits that run these companies

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago

So is spending hard earned salary on a Ubisoft game

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

Yup. Millions subscribe to MMOs and Game Pass. Live service games like Genshin Impact and Fate/Grand Order are incredibly popular. There are also games with crazy intrusive DRM like kernel level spyware and always online DRM that are still installed by millions. How can you look at these stats and not think people are fine with paying for temporary games? If the game is good enough, players don't care. Ubisoft's problem is their games aren't good enough.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago

Question, is buying games on Steam "owning"?

[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

No, it’s not. If Valve goes belly up you can kiss your games and the infrastructure they need goodbye. Also you don’t get to resell games you already own or give them away and selling accounts is against ToS. If you die your games are gone, you can’t give your account away legally.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah, that's what I thought. Not trying to be a smart ass, I just keep seeing things like this for Ubisoft and other companies and people just crap on them, but then Steam is almost never criticised for the same issue (or I am not seeing those memes). I guess Valve makes enough other things right so people are more happy to overlook this?

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Steam gets a pass because their business practices are consumer friendly.

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[-] huginn@feddit.it 0 points 1 week ago

Steam is not a publicly traded company, so they don't pull this kind of skullduggery in service of the shareholders.

They're a company full of people who, gasp, like video games: unlike the average navel gazing, brainless, Harvard Business School CEO.

Given their track record they've been more consistently "pro gamer" than other companies and are given a lot of leeway for that.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Valve has stated that if their store was ever to be discontinued they would remove all DRM they have in place to allow for the games to be played without it. This was a long long time ago though.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah, promises change over time. Hope they can keep their promise on that but not sure how that would even be feasible with a catalogue that large.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I fear for valve when Gaben dies. I hope he picks someone good.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

And it is only really a promise they can keep for their own games. Like I said in another comment, lots of game studios already ship their games without DRM.

If Valve goes under, the games that are gonna be a problem are the ones from the likes of Ubisoft and EA.

They wouldn't lift a finger to make sure people who bought their games on steam could keep playing them if steam disappeared

In fact they've been taking their games back even while steam is still around. Lots of people own unplayable games on steam because the publisher screwed the servers or something.

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But you can, write your ID and Password on a paper under your keyboard and "forget" it before death.

[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

It’s possible, sure, but if pressed Valve will ban the account.

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just don't let them be pressed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Buy games on GoG when you can

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 0 points 1 week ago

You still don't own them. Read their ToS.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They don't have to provide a way to install the games in perpetuity, but I'm pretty sure the ToS don't provide a way for them to stop you from keeping a DRM free copy you've downloaded.

So sure, the ToS says you don't own the game, but unlike ubisoft that puts that non-ownership into practice, GOG makes that legal non-ownership utterly meaningless. If you have a copy of the game, then you have a copy of the game.

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

I prefer to buy from Steam because they allow me to play my games easily and invest time and money in Linux which results in more freedom for all gamers. I've been very disappointed with GoG's record on Linux.

No. Do you prefer subscription services?

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

Depends on the game.

There's a surprisingly large amount of games on steam that are DRM free, meaning once downloaded, running the game doesn't actually require steam.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago

But then, how do you keep the game for later, like reinstalling it on a system that does not run steam, that won't work right?

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's just a folder. You keep the folder.

When you want to run it, you go to the folder and double-click the .exe of the game.

If you want, you can drop a shortcut to that exe somewhere convenient.

"Installing" is just putting files in a folder somewhere, and maybe adding a shortcut to the start menu so the user can find and run whatever got installed. There's nothing special about it.

Unless the .exe needs some other program to be installed, or some files that need to be available somewhere else (which these DRM free games don't), you can just move the folder the game is in wherever you like, another PC even, and it'll still run just fine.

[-] fluckx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

This. I used to have a bunch of the games backed up on a hard drive because copying the files over & patching was faster than redownloading it.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Pirate magic, me boy!

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I imagine it would be for older games though?

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why do you assume that?

Any dev can decide to just not code their game in a way that requires steam. Valve doesn't modify whatever the studio decides to ship in any that would change that.

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[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

They should all be like this.

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Ubisoft will look up and shout “save us!”

And we will whisper

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

“Shareholders need to get comfortable not owning their yacht”

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I think this is correlation without causation. Or at least not exclusively, or even mostly. Don't get me wrong he's still a dick.

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