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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I forget what comedian said it, but if you're discussing two words and you cannot even say anything except the first letter of one of the words, that's the worse word.

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[-] unreachable@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Her tongue also moves, omg

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

If you hadn't said anything I'd still be thinking this was a still image. Thanks for ruining my day

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

all medical terms get turned into hateful insults--moron, idiot, imbecile, r*tarded which is approaching but will never achieve n-word status-- all used to be actual medical diagnoses. "obese" will go the same route and be replaced by something else, which will also eventually become derogatory and be replaced

funny how "shit", "piss", "fuck", "cunt", "cocksucker", "motherfucker", and "tits" are almost everyday words now

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

funny how “shit”, “piss”, “fuck”, “cunt”, “cocksucker”, “motherfucker”, and “tits” are almost everyday words now

So much so that there's a song about it!

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

STEP ONE, INSTEAD OF ASS, SAY BUNS

[-] ReplicantBatty@lemmy.one 0 points 1 month ago

LIKE 'KISS MY BUNS' OR 'YOU'RE A BUNS-HOLE'

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Buns-hole gets me every time

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Singing Family Reunion at their concert is a memory I will never let go

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I wonder if those prior medical terms had precise definitions. Obese is BMI >= 30 and morbidly obese is >= 40. BMI itself has some issues but works ok as a general assessment for most people.

[-] Persen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

And now apparently autism. Why us? Autism doesn't cause you to be useless or stupid, most of us aren't recognised in public and a high percentage isn't even diagnosed.

[-] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

The reason is bigotry. If you really want to get into it, a big reason for the stigma against autism is the damage done by Autism Speaks.

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[-] Floshie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

Nobese then ?

Oh my god. Get off the cross, we need the wood. Also you’re causing stress fractures.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

As always - if you're saying a word is comparable to the n-word, and you are able to use your word in public as a non-black person, it's not like the n-word

[-] Otkaz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Wasn't really all that long ago when non-black people very commonly used that word in public and probably still so in certain communities. Having said that, obese is a medical term and I don't think it compares in anyway to the n-word.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

it changed with the OJ trial

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[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I couldn't remember where the quote came from, thank you, I tried to search for it but it was surprisingly difficult

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[-] TheEntity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Frankly that's something I do not understand. Why this single specific word? We have dozens of terrible offensive words. Why this specific one is considered so bad we cannot even talk about it directly, even when merely discussing it? I would think discussing it and not directing it at someone would be pretty reasonable. As with every single other word.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

Is one of the other words associated with 200 years of chattel slavery?

[-] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Negro is pretty gosh darn close, but I guess it's just not quite as derogatory.

[-] TheEntity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

To my non-American ears "negro" sounds far worse actually. Probably because of how rare it is in comparison.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 0 points 1 month ago

To my Hispanic ears, "n---o" sounds like an Anglophone saying "black". Even when used derogatorily, my immediate first thought is that they pronounced it incorrectly, then the rest of the associated matters kick in and I realize what they are really saying.

Imagine if in the Hispanosphere , the word "black" was almost synonymous with the n-word.

But yeah, don't use n---o in English to refer to or describe anyone.

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[-] TheEntity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Probably no, not in this specific form, that being said I don't want to compare one tragedy to another. There are lots of disgusting parts of the human history, and that's certainly one of them.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

The only equivalent I can think of starts with k and is a slur for Jewish people, and it's much less commonly heard.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 0 points 1 month ago

What about something related to the indigenous peoples of the Americas?

[-] Nutteman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We killed them and displaced the rest so damn fast that we forgot all the major slurs for them

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[-] Liz@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

The OJ Simpson trial. No joke.

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[-] TheV2@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

No, you're thinking about a different scenario. What matters is not if you are black, but if you are the target of the word you are comparing to the n-word.

She, as an obese person herself, proposed that "obese" is equivalent to the n-word. She didn't censor her word the same way a black person doesn't have to censor the n-word. That's not a contradiction. It would be, if she wasn't obese.

Not that I care about the actual point, just wanted to talk about the logic. My bad, if my assumption that she is obese, is wrong.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Obese is a medical term though and Dr ... PhD should know that.

[-] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Not necessarily, a PhD isn't a medical degree

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Ok I looked her up, I had to know.

She's a "fat-affirming" dietitian and her PhD is in "body positive medicine"

Her name is a blatant pun.

I don't think I'm reaching when I say not only is the account fake, this person doesn't exist, but that it was made to make fun of fat people.

[-] teegus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Sooo you're saying it's understandable for someone with a PhD to not have basic common knowledge?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

I've got one, and there are many many thing I'm an idiot on

[-] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

I mean, sure. As someone who recently went back to school and is around a bunch of PhD and PhD students, they're really, really smart... about their specific area of study. But more than some of them are fucking stupid when it comes to other, normal things

[-] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Hello yes my name is Dr. PhD I have many college and come to bringun you the health. stat.

[-] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Also, I don't agree with the OP and think it's fucking dumb, but let's not forget that "retard" used to be a medical term as well

[-] Benjaben@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

That's the way these things have always gone and probably always will. Retarded, imbecile, idiot, these were all effectively clinical terms (or whatever best approximated clinical practice in their eras) - they didn't hold an insulting intention initially. People co-opted the terms to make fun of each other, as we do, and so professionals had to shift the clinical vocabulary so they weren't using commonly hurled insults when discussing patients. And that means new words people can use to make fun of each other, yay! Which of course they did, necessitating another rotation. Pretty hilarious if you ask me.

The most recent example in my own life - my wife is in her mid 30s, and is pregnant - some medical professionals call this a "geriatric pregnancy"! But because some folks are getting offended by that term, they're starting to use "advanced maternal age pregnancy". Bit of a mouthful, I think they'll get to keep that one.

Anyway. Carlin had a great bit on this phenomena, he's the one who pointed it out to me.

[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

I've heard this called the "euphemism treadmill"

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[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Mid 30s is a "geriatric pregnancy"? Jesus Christ, medical professionals.

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It is, though—women having children later in life are at higher risk for complications for both themselves and the baby. It also has a higher risk of birth defects.

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[-] zippythezigzag@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

I thought it was"fat". It almost seems like she'd be mad at any term that describes her as she is, like as if she is ashamed to be something thats completely within her control not to be.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

Bingo...you won yourself a hamburger. Not from mcshits though, they want to be a luxury food so no one but the Uber elite should spend money there going forward. Plus their salt patties are nasty

[-] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It's quite literally the medical term.... i... I am an obese man, I am an obese man mostly of my own doing, their might be some psychological or socioeconomic reasons, but it's mostly the fact that food is good, exercise sucks, and impulse control. I wasn't born this way, I wasn't treated as nonhuman for something beyond my control, and obese is not used for the sole purpose of being derogatory.

Those two words are very, very different. Even if you are obese because of a thyroid, or injury, or whatever, a doctor can, and will call you obese in your medical reports. And if you can't handle that because you can't handle that slight uncomfortability, no wonder you are still obese.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

I've been bedbound for five years. I have managed to stay a healthy weight by harassing my mother every time she buys unhealthy food. I ain't got that kind of self-control!

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If you can write one word but not the other, it's the other that's worse.

That being said, fat people do face systemic issues which are often intersectional with race, class, gender, etc., but this is a shitpost, so don't think too hard about it.

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