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Bonus question: what email inbox client do you use?

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[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 58 points 1 month ago

I self host. Don't.

[-] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 54 points 1 month ago

Proton. Yes.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago

I used to pay for Gmail, then I used Proton Mail about a year, and I’ve been using Fastmail for the last couple of years, which I recommend. I don’t know of anything that’s as feature-rich and easy to use as Fastmail. You may not be interested in all those fancy features, though.

I use MacOS/iOS Mail clients, but also Thunderbird as I’m trying to wean myself off of Apple’s ecosystem and onto Linux/FOSS.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 12 points 1 month ago

+1 for fastmail… it’s one of those products that isn’t trying to trick you… you pay for it, and it’s just a solid product that tries to be the best at what it is…

it’ll let you have as many domains and aliases as you like, including wildcards for email (and lets you reply/send appropriately using any of those aliases)

it’ll let you pull all your calendars and push events into a single one of your choosing - it doesn’t have to be theirs

i could probably replicate some of what it does with my home server, but it’s really nice that i don’t have to

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

Does it have good spam filtering like Gmail?

[-] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 3 points 1 month ago

Yep! It's decent

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[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago

Protonmail, it's fantastic. Sleek design, solid feature set, integrates with Thunderbird if you want to use that.

[-] lynndotpy@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago

Fastmail, 100%. Reasons:

  • "Encrypted email" only works between encrypted providers. ProtonMail and Tutanota are both very inconvenient, and all I want is an email that's not scanned for marketing.
  • Since 2018, ProtonMail kept getting worse, especially with the recent AI stuff. Dodged bullet, IMO.
  • $6/month = Custom domains, and any amount of emails under those domains. I can send and receive from any domain xxx@yyy [dot] lynndotpy [dot] dev, for example.
  • CalDav and CardDav provider = Contacts, calendar, and reminders sync. Works perfectly on iOS too, if you like that.

It replaced my finnicky NextCloud for half the cost.

[-] thequickben@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

You forgot the Fastmail killer feature. Masked email addresses.

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

PGP encrypted e-mail works regardless of the provider btw.

[-] WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

True but go and explain that to the regular Joe..

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

yeah.. it's pretty hard to get non-techies to use encrypted mail. even proton's encryption is pretty useless as it's decrypted in their web client anyway.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

I might have to change my provider. Paying the same with a worse featureset.

[-] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ProtonMail. Works great for the most part.

Except their desktop "app", which is total shit. It's just a webview in an electron framework. If I wanted to keep a webview, I'd just keep a tab open in my browser. Or a separate browser window if I wanted to keep it separate.

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

If you use the paid version of proton you can use basically any third party client (I use thunderbird)

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[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 4 points 1 month ago

I've hosted my Mail with them for over a year, still have them as my backup. I wouldn't really recommend them, as they don't adhere to the standard protocols which infuriates me. As a result, you can only use a proper email client on PC with the back they call bridge, you cannot use a proper client on phones, forget syncing of calendar and contacts.

There is more, especially for the non-mail products.

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[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

Mailbox.org with my own custom domain (firstname@surname.co.uk) and Thunderbird for an email client.

I would highly recommend it. It is cheap and includes almost a complete replacement for Google services (email, contacts, calendar, online drive, etc).

Please consider your privacy. Giving all you emails to Google (or other mainstream data harvesters) basically gives them deep info about your whole life (purchases, travel, communication....everything).

Having a custom domain let's you go to any provider you like if you want to switch.

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

I'm with mailbox too and generally it's been pretty solid. The only thing I dislike is that their 2fa implementation is weird, and maybe that I can't get a separate password to put in my server.

On the other hand you get a lot of solid email related things for good privacy and a pretty cheap price. They even host a thing for encrypted video calls and a document server for collaboration.

[-] poldy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Posteo. Happy with them. For client, gnus in Emacs. Have it configured to do Autocrypt too, but almost nobody else on the planet does 🙁

[-] rbn@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

I also use posteo for four or five years now. Really happy and never had any issues so far.

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[-] 0_0@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

Tuta. It's great but no third-party client support.

[-] mspencer712@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago

I self host, on a personal domain I registered in June 2000. Mostly followed a 13?-part tutorial at I think linuxbabe dot com, was the first one that seemed to genuinely be trying to help you set up a good environment, not just as a way to say “doesn’t this sound difficult? Impossible even? Coincidentally you can pay us to do this instead.” Except I put everything on its own VM instead of all on one. (Even a VM for just opendkim, which was maybe not necessary.)

Mostly iPhone mail app and/or Roundcube webmail.

Yes highly recommend it, for receiving email. Greylist blocks like 99.8% of spam. Sending works fine for me, because it’s an old domain with history. I don’t think brand new domains have the same experience.

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Proton for personal email. Not immediately needing to escape but once my free email runs out of storage I plan to switch to something else because of the concerns raised by the incident with the French climate activist.

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[-] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago

Gmail and protonmail. Both give me no issues at all.

[-] terminal@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Mxroute with thunderbird as a client and mail on iOS for mobile.

Unlimited domains and rock solid. Just don’t expect lots of hand holding the company focuses on making email work you have to sort out your own details. That being said they have good documentation.

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[-] 10_0@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Nice try phisher

[-] Hellstormy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Zoho, because it's email server is free to use for custom domain adresses

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 1 month ago

My own. With blackjack and hookers.

As a client I use Kmail. But I'm not really satisfied. Kmail 3 was so great, I miss it. I should go back to Thunderbird.

[-] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Proton, yes. There are some criticisms to make regarding them, but I think most are either blown out of proportion or a non issue for the majority of people.

[-] GhostTheToast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Purely Mail, yes; so long as you're comfortable with one guy running the service.

Thunderbird for desktop and K-9 for Andriod. Only because they were the most recommended and completely fit my needs.

[-] Corr@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Haven't had any issues with purely mail myself. I really like it

[-] CetaceanNeeded@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Purely Mail has been a good experience for me so far.

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[-] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Answer to the bonus question: http://mutt.org/

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ionos.
Too lazy to selfhost. Also the implications of self hosting and securing email is too cumbersome to sleep well at night.
But I do self host non-important to my living at home.

Edit:
Inbox: Outlook. Tried eM-Client but it was worse than Outlook (around 2018 or 19)

[-] tmpod@lemmy.pt 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Migadu. Yeah*. On the computer, I use mostly aerc (+notmuch), but hop on Thunderbird once in a while; on mobile I use K-9.

* If you are not looking for totally free options (though their cheapest plan is 20€/y and they give 50% discount to students), and if you don't care about email encryption (which you shouldn't). Migadu has a very good Pros/Cons page, I highly recommend you take a look, even if you're not using or planning to use their service.

[-] hegeezias@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

I’m also a Migadu user. Nothing but good experiences with them. Simple, solid, and straightforward.

[-] tmpod@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 month ago

Same. Have multiple domains and mailboxes with them, really solid. The thing I love most is probably the catch all address (allows me to effortlessly create "one-shot" addresses) and the plus-addressing automatic folders (i.e. mails to foo+bar@domain.tld automatically go to folder "bar" in mailbox "foo").

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[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago
[-] nelsnelson@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Mailfence and Protonmail.

Mailfence has shorter inactive account policies which result in account deletion, and its login sessions are terminated very quickly.

I have also experienced multiple mail receipt failures because of instable mail servers in their pool, but that was back in December, and never recurred.

I only use Mailfence for throwaway emails.

[-] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Tuta, wouldn't really recommend it since I can't use it with Thunderbird or as an SMTP server

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[-] krash@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I use gmail and my own domain with uninbox. The latter is a quite new FOSS email front/backend, but its still very new and lacks essential features.

If I'd make the switch, it would probably be to tutanota.

[-] unn@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

gmx.com

It used to don't require phone number

I recommend it if you're not using for privacy sensitive use cases, has both IMAP and pop3 for free

[-] brrt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

It’s been years since I’ve used their service but back then they were notorious for tricking users into signing up for their premium service with dark patterns and making it very hard to cancel. Which is why I left them and have dissuaded anyone from ever using their services.

[-] sobanto@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Proton, yes, thunderbird

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Gmail, wouldn't recommend. Use it out of necessity.

I use k9 mail for checking on mobile and it is solid most of the time

[-] nek0d3r@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I pay for a Google workspace account, but I've been thinking about self hosting. I've had my eye on mailcow for a bit, does anyone recommend?

[-] aspitzer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

self hosted. postfix + dovecot. android email app, thunderbird, or alpine from the cli.

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