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Planned Phase-outs of Gasoline/Diesel Cars
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this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2024
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Everything past 2030 is a kick the can approach and is not actually being pursued by anyone with any genuine effort. The people that made those pledges know they probably won't still be working in 2035+. It's not actually their problem, it's the next guy's problem. And if they don't lay the groundwork or create steps for the next guy to meet their promised goals... Well, that's also the next guy's problem. They know they'll be happily retired or in a different position by the time those promises are supposed to come to fruition. And if they're not, they can just shrug and say something about a changing economy, or point out how no other country is meeting their goals (because again, almost no one is actually pursuing this in good faith), or, what's more likely, just never bring up or acknowledge the goal again and hope everyone moves on/forgets.
Absolutely. Many of these deadlines already have been pushed backed in the EU, and there's no reason to believe they won't be pushed back again. The car lobby is incredibly powerful here.
The reason the lobby accepted these numbers at all is because they now use them to demand government subsidies because otherwise they claim they won't be able to afford the necessary R&D and retooling of factories. All the while raking in solid profits, as usual. Socialize the costs, privatize the profits, as usual.
I fully expect there to be lots of moaning about "unexpected difficulties and expenses" over the next decade.