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Please explain how Israel attacking Iran is Joe Biden's fault? He said the United States would not support a retaliatory strike against Iran's retaliatory strike. All the blame falls directly on Netanyahu and the Israeli government.
The US is Israel's shield... Israel can only afford to be a belligerent bully bombing embassies because nobody wants to get involved in a war with the US. The US is enabling Israel's worst behaviors.
I have no idea what this image means.
I’ll take a stab. The picture implies that the Durstley’s enabled the bullying of their son.
You're right. Before this protection, they tried several times to wipe Israel off the map.
Nope, they didn't. Even the expression itself is the result of a deliberate mistranslation by pro-Israeli propagandists trying to bolster the completely bogus victim narrative of by far the most militarily powerful and active country in the region.
Hmm, Iran calls for it constantly. Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan tried several times. You can't just pretend history didn't happen.
Do you have a credible source on that? Because propagandists keep claiming that without backing it up with actual evidence that they're not just making up whatever fits their narrative
None of them anywhere near successfully and none of them in this millennium.
And you can't just greatly exaggerate decades old events and pretend that they represent an imminent and existential threat.
I mean, you obviously CAN, since you just did, but you really shouldn't.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ahmadenijads-most-memorable-quotes-flna6C10331091
An 11 year old article quoting deliberate mistranslations of the then prime minister does not an imminent, constant, and permanent threat make.
I'd say "nice try", but that would be a lie.
How about providing a source about that mistranslation?
How about five?
New York Times
Washington Post
The Guardian
New Statesman
Fair.org
Turns out Wikipedia has a great article on it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calls_for_the_destruction_of_Israel#:~:text=Ali%20Khamenei%2C%20Iran's%20supreme%20leader,of%20Israel%20from%20the%20region%E2%80%9D.
I recommend checking the sources to verify it yourself.
Of course they were not successful, otherwise they would have wiped Israel off the map like their intended goal was. Also, your claim of not in this millennium is disingenuous. There are still plenty people alive to thought in those wars on both sides.
I> mean, you obviously CAN, since you just did, but you really shouldn't.
I didn't, that was you doing that. I was simply adding context to the person I was replying to.
Do you have any idea how biased an article has to be for Wikipedia to put that banner at the top of the article itself rather than just a section or somewhere on the talk page?
What kind of nonsense is that? By that standard, the Balkan war is still ongoing 🤦
If by "adding context" you mean "repeating deliberately misleading to downright fraudulent propaganda slogans", sure.
Any information that doesn't follow your narrative is misinformation huh? That's the tactic you're going with to hide your own misinformation?
Those wars happened, those countries wanted to wipe Israel off the map. The US negotiated with them and gave most of them money to stop trying to destroy Israel. How about actually knowing history Instead of trying to come up with your own?
The projection is strong with this one 🤦
That doesn't allow Israel to slaughter Gazan civilians.
Just because I won't shed a tear when the genocidal fascist Netanyahu dies doesn't mean that he has a right to murder me, my family, all my neighbors and all the neighbors of my family.
Bullshit. The US hasn't negotiated in good faith with a Palestinian leader since the 90s at the latest.
And even if they had, it wouldn't matter since it wouldn't stop the apartheid conditions and constant bombing that give the terrorists influence and therefore power in the first place.
You first, genocide apologist.
Oh geez, starting a new discussion because you were called out on your bullshit? I'm talking about surrounding countries, not the people those countries abandoned in their pursuit to destroy Israel. If you want to shift the discussion to a new topic, how about starting your own thread of discussion instead of trying to call bullshit on someone else's discussion?
You know what? Fuck this shit. You're clearly not capable of arguing in good faith or incorporating any new information into your ridiculously narrow Zionist worldview, so I'm not going to waste anymore time on your willfully ignorant ass. Have the day you deserve.
Now whose projecting? If you bothered to actually have a legitimate conversation about the topic, you wouldn't have tried steering it to a different topic instead.
It’s like people forget that the Israel/Palestine conflict has been going on longer than the partial term that Biden has had.
Israel/Iran conflict as well. It's just no longer through Iran's proxies only.
A retaliatory strike just happened. What's Biden's move?
No doubt a sternly-worded press release!
Concerned and disappointed.
Well, the Biden Administration did not support it in the sense that they din't send their missiles along and no US launch infrastructure was used.
They never actually said they were against it much less they would punish Israel for it.
The use of a "we won't help doing it" fromulation in a way that can be misinterpreted as "we're against it" so that they can have plausible deniability later when it turns out they're not really against it is pretty standard doublespeak from the US Administration.
He hasn't done anything to stop Netanyahu when he has a position of unique leverage. In fact he keeps rewarding this behavior with more weapons and fighter jets.
Netanyahu takes most of the blame for being the guy but Biden has had a 100 chances in the last few months to pressure him to stop. Instead we're shoveling more coal into the fire.
He's failed utterly for 6 months to do anything to reign in Israel when their genocide is being funded by US taxpayers. He's had 6 months to yank Netanyahu's leash and he's refused so the entire time.
This ENTIRE situation is a result of US foreign policy: Its a direct consequence of Bidens failure of leadership.
Keep drinking the Kool Aid
Bruh, the one blindly defending Biden here is you. You're the one drinking the Kool Aid.
I think that is the point. So far Biden has apparently just said a bunch of words. Biden could actually do more than he is now. Instead, the genocide is continuing unabated, Israel continues to aggressively and wrecklessly escalate the regional tensions.
Come on genocide Joe, actually draw a red line and stick to it.
The mouth breather can’t explain anything. I’m sure Newsmax and Alex Jones told him all problems on Earth are Biden/The Democrats fault….
You must be fucking confused if you think Netanyahu is Joe Biden's "attack dog". The Israeli government has spent the last 40+ years successfully coopting the United States government.
What do you think those shifty mother fuckers would be doing in an election year if he came out against them? I agree they need to he brought to heel, but if you think that is going to happen given the existing externalities of global & US politics then you are living in a fantasy.
"He has to support Genocide because israel controls US politics!"
Biden could just ban the israel lobby instead how about that.
Biden is not a dictator. "Ban the Israel lobby" - that's not who this works or how anything works.