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So the rumor that Israel wants to take over the northern part of Gaza has finally come true?
The IDF, that very reliable source (/S), says they'll only use it to move troops around.
If it's just to move troops around, why dig trenches and have a huge no-man's-land along the road? It's kinda like they're building Berlin wall v2. We'll see if they'll allow 1.5 million displaced Gaza populations to return to the northern part of Gaza later.
Why wait and see when you can just take their word at face value? They won't.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-minister-calls-voluntary-emigration-gazans-2023-11-14/
One very easy tell that the IDF is lying: their lips are moving.
That's very true. The other way you can be sure they are lying is that they are conservatives.
Well if the road is only for troops then I suppose any Israeli on it will be a legitimate target moving forward.
Well attacks on the military (troops and installations) have been described as terrorism, so there's that too.
It's not a rumor, that was their official announced plan, or rather small parts of north gaza. The conspiracy is that they want all of Gaza which they didn't say, but is pushed by pro-hamas supporters.
I think you're either misinformed or spreading disinformation:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/12-ministers-call-to-resettle-gaza-encourage-gazans-to-leave-at-jubilant-conference/
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/religious-zionist-party-mp-urges-government-to-occupy-gaza-annex-to-israel-demolish-all-homes/3099741
I've only point out what the IDF had said was their plan. Some Orthodox zionist have been calling for all the territory of West bank and Gaza to be theirs, but they are a tiny minority.
Did you see the article? Something like half of the Prime Minister's cabinet was at a rally celebrating that they're doing this.
Here's the thing: I can recognize that where people stand on this sort of thing is very hard to accurately gauge in the moment. It's as likely that I'm overestimating the support for this plan as it is that you're underestimating it
With that said, I have a strong motivation to rationalize that these people do not represent the center of public opinion. I really want that to be true. But as someone who has followed Israeli news and politics from before October 7th, and has been following it even more closely since, from the most on-the-ground sources I can find, I heard a phrase from a Lebanese Palestinian podcaster that has struck with me for months. He said,
That's in reference to Israeli Finance minister and self-described fascist Bezalel Smotrich. I think it's true. To my horror, the Israeli center and even left are far more amenable to the full ethnic cleansing of Israel-Palestine than any time in my lifetime. I could be wrong. But I think you should ask yourself what you think you should be doing if I'm not.
Then: do that.
I heard a reporter sometime ago about speaking to an Israeli that lived in one of the raided kibbutzes. He was part of the peace movement and he and some other guys in the kibbutz were taking turns bringing kids from Gaza to Israeli hospitals. And now he didn't know how he had to feel anymore: several of his neighbors killed with their families, some kidnapped, ...
Ongoing violence (from both sides) can only result in the 'normies' radicalising.
Yeah just like when they said they were going to starve and terror bomb everyone in Gaza and then did exactly that.