95
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by hedge@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

Not sure technology is the best place to put this...any suggestions for a cross post?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Aatube@kbin.social 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

COI: Wikipedian

It's not overzealous. Wikipedia has bandwidth and doesn't want to duplicate what's already on https://www.wikidata.org/ (which has a much generous notability guideline: "It refers to an instance of a clearly identifiable conceptual or material entity that can be described using serious and publicly available references"). Notability is sort of a compromise on what will be maintained as an article to not have these you need to maintain just explode.

The part about forbidding primary sources isn't true; they aren't forbidden unless the claim is "exceptional"(what's exceptional is decided by whoever looks at the article), which doesn't include most of the facts cited. What's true is that primary sources don't count towards notability, so if an article mostly just uses primary sources it's likely to get deleted.

Not to mention some of the defectors are also "mods", if you mean admin by that. On Wikipedia, admins are seen a bit more like janitors who know the rules.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

Ah ok. From the perspective of the guy who's complaining, it just sounds like they are very strict and don't allow some direct sources or some very evident facts to be allowed.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

The use of primary sources has long been restricted to minimal usage, since primary means any form of self-published claim. And that sort of source shouldn't contribute to any form of notability.

this post was submitted on 09 Dec 2023
95 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

37554 readers
251 users here now

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS