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Israel arrests almost as many Palestinians as it has released during truce (www.aljazeera.com)

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[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 32 points 9 months ago

If you want to be pedantic: Hamas is not a state actor and its fighters usually don't wear uniforms. They are thus not considered combattants, which in turn means they can't be prisoners of war.

[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.social 29 points 9 months ago

also, saying "we can't be sure who is and isn't hamas" is an ongoing way of further brutalizing Palestinian civilians.

[+] EatYouWell@lemmy.world -20 points 9 months ago

Hamas is the defacto governing agency for the Gaza Strip and should be considered a state actor if the Palestinian government isn't taking action against them.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 30 points 9 months ago

This comment right here encapsulates a level of ignorance that is hard to believe.

So first, yes. Hamas does rule Gaza. They rule through fear and violence.

They were elected to power, but that was almost 20 years ago, and they ran on a platform of being moderate and peaceful. They barely won the election, and only because the other party was actively imploding.

Once they were in power, they quickly replaced anyone who could stand against them. This is still how they work when it comes to government services. They few that they do offer.

They've refused to hold elections or give up power in any way. And again, enforce their hold on power with violence.

Now, a bit over half of the population of Gaza are children. They were too young to have voted for Hamas.

In fact, the only reason why Hamas is in power at all, is actually Israel. See, the Israeli government has had a hand in Hamas since the beginning. They helped amplify the ultraconservative religious message of the founder of Hamas, all in an effort to weaken Palestinian solidarity. Netanyahu personally moved to prop up Hamas several times over the last 20 years, all in the name of keeping the Palestinians separate.

See, the West Bank has an actual, functional democratically elected government made up of Palestinians who are mostly secular. This is the "Palestinian government" that you seem to be alluding to.

They're in the West Bank under Israeli military occupation. They are literally not allowed to enter Gaza. No one has been allowed to freely enter or exit Gaza for decades. Israel has them under a full blockade.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 18 points 9 months ago

Also it’s people in the West Bank who were arrested not Hamas in Gaza.

[-] StormFather@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

the PLO has delayed the elections since 2021 so calling them democratic is bit far fetched. functioning is also debatable.

there were many gazans with work permits entering Israel , who could enter freely(through security checks as is common in all borders). also UNRWA moves people in and out of gaza, and many palastinians used to be allowed to recieve medical treatment in israel.

saying Hamas exists because of Israel is intresting, because the tyings Iseael did to support Hamas is sending money to the governing bodt of Gaza. it had no part of their creation or siezing control of the strip aside from the withdrawl of israrli foeces from Gaza.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0 Here's a video lining out some links between israel and Hamas, including many israeli officials saying Hamas is an israeli creation.