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[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Of course it does. It's a superpower with a right to protect its citizens from the threats of the world's most aggressive military alliance, making threats to install nukes etc. Do you think the US would behave differently?

[-] Skua@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Hot take but if the USA invaded Mexico because the CSTO refused to stop accepting members then I would, in fact, think that that was bad actually

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

But that's not a singular scenario. If you want an analogy it would be Russia or China installing nukes on the US-Mexico border and constantly talking shit.

[-] Skua@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

It's the direct comparison to the scenario Russia created when it sent that letter. It's literally just swapping:

  • The CSTO for NATO
  • America for Russia, as the aggressor with a big military
  • Mexico for Ukraine, as the smaller neighbour that's not even in the alliance in question

But let's not pretend it would be any more just for America to kill hundreds of thousands of Mexicans over nukes stored there. The way America treated Cuba around the time of the missile crisis was basically this, and I would hope that we can agree America was not justified in that. As it is you're just defending warmongering behaviour because it's against a side that you don't like.

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

But let’s not pretend it would be any more just for America

Nobody is saying it's justified. It's predictable, expected and a normal way for a superpower to behave. You don't climb into the lion cage and whine about justice when you're mauled. Russia, the USA, whichever is going to act in its interests and the interests of its security. The unjust part is on the aggressor, in this case the USA in Ukraine funding and arming Nazi extremists to threaten Russia for "its interests in the region" and killing hundreds of thousands because it's "cheap" and a "good deal" for them.

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