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In meetings in Israel, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin conveyed to Israeli leaders that it’s important to observe international rules of warfare.

As Israel girds for a fearsome ground assault into Gaza, senior Biden administration officials are warning their Israeli counterparts to show restraint and avoid mass civilian casualties and a humanitarian disaster that could turn world opinion against the Jewish state, according to two current and one former U.S. official.

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[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First of all, Biden doesn't support genocide or ethnic cleansing, "tacitly" or otherwise.

Second, if you are against genocide or ethnic cleansing, then you could prove it by helping to elect the candidate who is less likely to pursue it. In the next election, that candidate will almost certainly be Biden. If you don't vote, then nobody should believe you are actually willing to do the bare minimum to stop it.

Finally, nobody cares where you live. If you supported Trump, you would most certainly be held accountable even if you lived in California. Same is true if you declined to oppose Trump.

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First of all, Biden doesn't support genocide or ethnic cleansing, "tacitly" or otherwise.

He has proven otherwise over the last week by continuing to overtly support Israel's use of asymmetrical warfare in order to wipe out Palestinian civilians in a slow motion genocide. Thus, my frustration and ultimate choice not to vote for him again. He could have made the decision to call for peace instead of scoring political points at the expense of civilian lives.

Second, if you are against genocide or ethnic cleansing, then you could prove it by helping to elect the candidate who is less likely to pursue it.

Biden is currently continuing to support the neo-conservative, zionist, apartheid state of Israel in their ongoing genocide against Palestinian civilians. No matter what candidate you vote for you will likely be providing material support to that reality given the current plausible options. So, I am making the decision not to support any candidate who supports that foreign policy objective because unlike you I'm not a fucking hypocrite.

If you supported Trump, you would be held accountable even if you lived in California. Same is true if you declined to oppose Trump.

We've been over this. The only people who are responsible for Donald Trump are the people in this country who voted for him willingly. Get that through your fucking head.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

wipe out Palestinian civilians

No, he hasn't supported Israeli action against civilians. Your suggestion otherwise proves that you aren't even bothering to read Biden's statements on the matter.

In the linked article, he warned Israel to obey international law when retaliating against Hamas.

Today, he warned Israel not to occupy Gaza, adding:

"Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don’t represent all the Palestinian people ... There needs to be a Palestinian Authority. There needs to be a path to a Palestinian state."

Meanwhile, the State Department is working to reopen humanitarian aid corridors to Gaza:

We’ve been over this.

We've been over this, but you keep getting it wrong. The people responsible for Trump include those who won't lift a finger to stop him.

Doing nothing in the face of evil does not free you from responsibility for evil. Ask any German.

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