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GB and the allies said, hey we'll put you here in Israel since 2000 years ago the Pharaohs made you slaves. Don't mind the people living here, they'll just move. They did the same thing with India and Pakistan. I wonder how the animosity between these groups started?
While Britain did make the matters worse but we must not forget that Hindus and Muslims have been at war with each other for a millennium now.
Same for Jews and Muslims.
People also want to indulge in political correctness and give free pass to Islamic scriptures which promotes hatred against Jews and Polytheists (Hindus).
That's why you'll find Muslims in Israel and India living largely peacefully but Hindus in Pakistan and Jews in Palestine continue to face atrocities.
In fact Hindus don't even have freedom of religion in India as many of our sacred Hindu sites were destroyed by Islamic invaders and mosques were built upon them.
Today's conflict between India and Pakistan is basically Hindus in conflict with ex-Hindus who converted to Islam to escape from Jizya (Islamic tax) and other forms of atrocities.
Another thing that makes India unique is that it has somehow retained some bits of it's culture even after the repeated Islamic invasions, that's not the case with other 50 odd Islamic countries. Spain might be the only other exception.
So, these are centuries old conflicts which Britishers exploited well.
Lol no. They keep close relations with the army for protection because they're such a small minority. Meanwhile muslims in India face the stupidity of the BJP and muslims in Israel face the wrath of whosoever turn it is to go raid Al Aqsa again.
Also it wasn't Britain's idea to split the country. That was a stance of the Muslims. Britain did exploit the tensions between them to prevent them from rebelling against the British Raj. Then they did a 180 when they no longer had a need to keep India under brutal occupation.
All in all Pakistan and India came out far far better than Israel and Palestine.
lol you do realise that every pakistani was once a hindu? like literally some Pakistanis have hindu surnames! Pakistanis have hindu surnames like Choudhary, Rajput and Army Cheif also has a Hindu surname "Bajwa".
The only reason why Pakistanis are Muslims is because their Hindu ancestors surrendered, and couldn't pay jizya to invading Turks/Arabs.
Punjabis and SIndhis sure, probably not Balochis or Pashtuns.
Also you're exclaiming this like it was a bad thing and people actually regretted converting. Trading a shitty caste system for not paying tax is a win-win.
Like I said, something straight outta r/Chodi lol.
Terrorism is not the means to combat this. Murdering and kidnapping civilians is never excusable.
You're aware that terrorism is how Israel became Israel. Look into proto Israeli bombings of civilian targets.
Reason why Netanyahu is such a cunt is because he's still miffed that he had to miss out on the good old days when his inspirations still bombed left and right
So what is the solution? Rolling over and dying as Israel genocides them in slow-motion while the rest of the world looks on and shrugs? Hamas is a putrid, evil organization, but the Palestinians have no other options. No one gives a shit what's happening to them.
Okay.
Terrorism to one group is freedom fighting to another.
Freedom fighters don't gun down civilians at music festivals
This is not "freedom fighting"
disgusting that people defend this because "Israel bad." get a grip, Hamas would do the same to you if you were in their path.
I even largely agree with the claim "Israel bad." This is not how you get Israel to stop doing the bad things.
This is just totally fucked.
Yeah it has been for decades and decades but suddenly because Israel actually gets hurt for once in like what 60 fucking years it's a step too far.
When either side has murdered civilians, I have called that side out. Terrorism is not acceptable
Terrorism is a staple of human life and always has been. We've reduced that somewhat but it still remains.
This is simply what happens when you run an apartied state.
So is child molestation and I don't tolerate that either
True enough but you're probably not complicit in your governments involvement in the middle East either.
If you truly believe this about yourself, go take a look at actual death rates between the two throughout the history of the conflict.
See how many orders of magnitude we're talking in terms of Palestinian deaths compared to Israeli.
Then, look at the statistics about how many of those Israelis were civilians vs. how many of the Palestinians were. Percentage-wise.
The IDF is wantonly murdering Palestinian civilians all of the time. Usually they respond by attacking IDF soldiers. Until this event. In general, one side is targeting civilians and it ain't Palestine.
You're confusing "defending," with "explaining"
Anyone who unironically calls this "freedom fighting" is not merely explaining. Not happening in this comment chain but absolutely elsewhere on lemmy and social media
There is zero historical evidence outside the Bible for the enslavement of Jewish people. The Egyptian wrote down everything and there are no mentions of Jewish slaves and certainly no mention of locust, frogs, the Nile turning to blood, or the mass slaughter of children in the middle of the night.
You can't say that, it's "impolite", but it's true.
Getting down voted but this is factual.
Egyptian slaves were, for the most part, from Africa.
This whole myth comes from a debunked script from the first century CE called Antiquities of the Jews.
Egypt never took slaves from Canaan, the historic site of proto-jews.