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[-] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Glad to see Germany addressing the conflict rationally, unlike half of Lemmy which just screams "genocide!" in every thread.

Still waiting to hear an explanation for why there are no Jews in Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Yemen, and Egypt, when there were historical populations in those countries (hint: it's the G word)

[-] ZeroTHM@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Too rational for Lemmy.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

You mean that G word that happened right after Israel came into existence and proceeded to demonstrate its intent to conquer by immediately disregarding its own borders with Palestine?

Genocide ain't it no matter who's doing it and for what reason, but it's real fuckin' convenient to just ignore a major instigating factor that just happens to be the country you're trying to apologism for.

[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

You mean after the Arab neighbours started a G on the jews as soon as the Brits left?

Sure the jews aren't much better but it's clear they'd be G'd themselves if it wasn't for their weapons

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[-] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Hamas supporters so deranged that they're trying to use the past to guilt today's Germans.

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[-] computerscientistI@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

As a German: I think it really is not our job to criticise Israel/the jewish people. There are about 200 other countries that are capable of voicing their opinions. I seriously doubt Hamas left Israel much of a choice, though. They are still keeping and mistreating hostages. What is Israel supposed to do? Passively standing by and watching their hostages being impregnated?

[-] Luccus@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

As a German, I feel like, we should be capable of seeing 10th of thousands of people die, including reporters and literal children, and fathom that this… is bad.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

""The Jewish People" Germany really goes hard on their propaganda.

Those IDF rape fanfics sure go hard in Germany. Those rape accusations turned out to be false like the 40 beheaded babies.

The only party torturing their hostages and even cutting off their limbs is israel: Israeli doctor says detained Palestinians are undergoing ‘routine’ amputations for handcuff injuries

[-] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago

What is Israel supposed to do? Passively standing by and watching their hostages being impregnated?

No, obviously not.

Killing international aid workers, Palestinian men, women, and children indiscriminately doesn't seem like a viable solution either and calling everyone who criticizes your military policy as "anti-Semitic" is not what you should do either.

[-] hairinmybellybutt@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

what about the genocide claim buddy bud

[-] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago

Whatabout the hair in your butt?

[-] hairinmybellybutt@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

my butt hair is more on topic that your comment my guy

don't forget to wear that keffiyeh!

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[-] smonkeysnilas@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

But it's not so simple and the media reporting is sometimes super biased and misrepresenting things. For example the aid workers that got killed. Before that happened the convoi got hijacked by Hamas fighters that actually started firing first. Somehow all the reports leave out that quite important detail.

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hypzdd3ya

[-] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago

But it's not so simple and the media reporting is sometimes super biased and misrepresenting things.

Is the best military policy at that point to just wipe out the entire lot of them? Including the aid workers?

Also, I noticed you haven't even acknowledged anything about the innocent men, women, and children that have been brutally killed on camera time and time again, for all the world to see, broadcast live, in some instances. Children are Hamas fighters now.

But who gives a shit, amirite? Every critical Goyim opinion is just Jew-hate now according to the Israeli government. They can do no wrong. Israel Uber Alles is the only opinion that is not "Anti-Semitic".

[-] smonkeysnilas@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

No of course it is not the best policy, that's not what I said. However it changes the story quite substantially in that a big share of the blame should be attributed also to Hamas. And leaving that part out is super dishonest.

I do acknowledge also the civilian casualties and it's a tragedy of course. I was just pointing out one example of bad reporting and I'm sure if you look closely there are many more cases where civilians died mainly because Hamas was hiding among them. So if you mention the deaths I feel you can't leave out that part. But mostly what I'm trying to say is it's not black & white and there simply are no good options for Israel: either give in to Hamas human shield tactics (for which Hamas basically takes all of Gaza hostage) or accept civilian deaths. It's a bad position and I don't know the answer, but I can understand that letting Hamas get away with everything is also not an option.

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[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

That looks like a really objective website there

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

It’s one thing to refrain from commenting but supporting Israel makes it clear that Germany learned nothing.

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[-] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

Right now it seems like the effect of people who got bullied in the past is likely to bully people in the future

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