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Just learned about this. A long read, but really interesting.

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[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 10 points 6 months ago

It sounds really interesting - however, I can't help but wonder that this doesn't necessarily come to anything deeper, that this kind of theory where any of these rules can be arbitrarily chosen and ultimately comes down to some kind of Turing-complete automata just uses the "computational possibilities" of this theory to arbitrarily arrive at the physics we know.

Maybe that wasn't super coherent, let me explain. Like this theory basically posits the universe as a kind of machine that is just executing these rules over and over. But we don't know what those rules are. But I feel like the inherent "computational power" of these theories just let them come up with the laws of physics through sheer brute force.

I mean, if there's essentially an infinite amount of possible rules, then of course some rules exist that would fully explain our known physics. That doesn't mean that those are the rules by which the universe works, it just means that you have found some kind of "compressed" version of physics in a ruleset. I'm not sure this is really any deeper insight.

Also, isn't there a problem in that this theory doesn't seem to be able to be used for predictions? From what I understand, it seems that there is essentially no way to "simulate" the propagation of the rules without actually executing the rules, essentially. Like you can't just simulate a ball falling, you need to actually have a ball and let it fall in order to see what happens. But maybe I'm not understanding it correctly.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

Finding "compressed" physics, as you put it, is what we've been doing since the enlightmenment. Thermodynamics is a "compressed" version of quantum mechanics, for example. Finding these basic theories can only help us in understanding the universe.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

He explained this on a podcast with Lex Fridman and broke my brain a little. I've forgotten his explanation of it since though. Joscha Bach has an equally interesting theory about how human mind works.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I wish I were smart enough and/or educated enough beyond my undergrad Physics classes from decades ago to actually understand this. I get the big picture stuff, then as it gets into the details there's always a point where I realize I'm decoding words, but I have no idea what the hell they're writing about.

[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social -1 points 6 months ago

If he was smart and fully understood his argument, he could explain it to anyone in terms they understood.

[-] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A brief history of time didn't come out until 1988. You implying that the ability to break it down, Barney style, is necessary to be smart or to fully understand something?

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