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UK-US air strikes launched against Houthis in Yemen (www.bbc.com)

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Finally, they removed the middleman - Saudi Arabia - and started dropping their bombs on the Houthis directly.

At least it's less hypocrite than what was going on before.

Can't but wonder if the Houthis aren't used to US and UK bombs being dropped on them by now and if thus this will make that much of a difference (weren't the Houthis mountain people, same as the Afghans?).

[-] danielbln@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Don't fuck with global trade. Your cause can be a shining beacon of righteousness, but take out trading routes you get the big boy stick. Always has been like that.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Whilst I agree with your point on why this is happenning, after what happenned in Afghanistan, I'm not quite sure of the effectiveness of what you named "big boy stick" against people who have little to lose and have spent over a decade being hit by such a "stick" only yielded by a mate if said "big boy".

A lot of what I'm reading here is the same "America, yeah!" stuff as before the invasion of Afghanistan - nationalistic enthusiasm rather than anything thought through.

Looking at the hostorical track record, it's a little premature to celebrate the effectiveness of this.

[-] danielbln@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

The Huthis have been launching ballistic missiles across country lines and target (among other things) international shipping lanes somewhat recently. They're not soldering up IEDs in caves to fend of a US invasion force, so I'm not sure how apt the comparison with Afghanistan is.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

All indications are that they're getting their Tech from Iran.

So ultimatelly to stop this you have to stop that Tech coming from Iran. Also we don't know how deep their current stockpiles are so even if the former is achieved and sustained without boots on the ground, how long does it have to be kept.

All this has a lot broader implications than the kind of talk I'm seeing around the whole situation: I mean US and UK politicians are treating this as almost One Bombing = Mission Accomplished.

My point is that the stated objectives aren't likelly to be achieved by just this one military action (as it's hardly the first time the Houthis get hit by British and American bombs so they're hardly going to "see the error of their ways" on just this) and as of now it's unclear how far things will have to go and if and how far will it spread.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean, I don't even see a contradiction with OP there. The big boy stick comes out, Western politicians are seen doing something and don't get blamed for the higher prices on "TIEMAM banana-shaped egg holder for children yellow plastic food container", a few of the non-Western brown guys die, but not most of them, and history continues. I don't think that there's a good reason was implied.

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[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 7 points 8 months ago

Can’t but wonder if the Houthis aren’t used to US and UK bombs being dropped on them by now and if thus this will make that much of a difference (weren’t the Houthis mountain people, same as the Afghans?).

Pretty much what the news analysts are saying, even. I'm unsure why Biden and Sunak felt like this was a good idea. I really can't see any possible upside. Now they look even more crooked in the region than before, because the only thing they acted on are the cargo ships loaded with dumb crap for the West, and the Houthis look cool and relevant directly fighting them. The threat to shipping is even higher than before if anything, and the whole place is even closer to going WWI.

They could have just parked their warships there and kept eating drones. It would have costed a lot in interceptors, but you'd think even a few more weeks of situation normal would have been worth it.

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

And Iran just seized a US oil tanker in the strait of hormuz today.

In fairness, its one the US seized from Iran some time back.

But geez, CENTCOM has too many problems today.

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[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Americans please remember vote blue no matter who! ❤️

[-] donuts@kbin.social 61 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I guess we've arrived at the part where a bunch of low-information lemmings come to say that Biden is bad for striking Houti terrorists who have been attacking and hijacking international shipping lanes, after being warned multiple times over the last weeks to stop. Boo fucking hoo.

Pro tip: when the US military gives you a "final warning" to knock off your shit, maybe listen.

[-] intelshill@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

Only the US is allowed to enforce sanctions or institute a blockade. Silly Yemen.

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[-] abuttandahalf@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

The country supplying arms for genocide is bombing the only country that is trying to put an end to it. Yemen is imposing sanctions on Israel because it is committing genocide. Israel should be sanctioned by the entire world. The united states imposes debilitating deadly sanctions on countries for decades simply because they are not under its boot. The United States is evil and no amount of propaganda is going to change that.

[-] donuts@kbin.social 16 points 8 months ago

The terrorist Houthis in Yemen, like Hamas, are backed by Iran--all three of which have individually called for the genocide and annihilation of Israel.

Last week America gave the Houthis one final warning (after multiple others) to knock off their piracy and hijacking of international trade routes.

Instead of widely heeding that warning, they made the very stupid decision to call America's bluff. As the saying goes "fuck around, find out."

By the way, Iran is also an authoritarian Islamic theocracy in which women are subjugated, homosexuality is subject to persecution, and freedom of expression is nonexistent. They represent the model of a Muslim State under Sharia religious law, back Islamic terrorist groups in various parts of the world, are creating instability in the region (like the Oct 7 attacks and these trade route hijackings), and are generally not your friend no matter how much koolaid you drink or what medal you pick up in the mental gymnastics Olympics.

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[-] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

The Houthis are attacking random ships, not Israeli ships. They were warned to cease attacking civilian ships on one of the largest trading routes in the world, and they didn’t. They fucked around and now they’re finding out.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Since when are the Houthis the recognized government of Yemen?

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 15 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't miss this election for the world! ^(because the consequences of fucking this up would echo far, far beyond the US....)

[-] spez_@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I'm voting green and red (Greens, socialists and communists)

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[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

And take someone with you!

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[-] ThompsonJr@lemmus.org 9 points 8 months ago

Another war omg

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Seems there is always at least one. Daddy Warbucks has to get his piece

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