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CNN analysis: Video suggests IDF might have rearranged weaponry at Al-Shifa prior to news crew visits (edition.cnn.com)

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[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago

That is an interesting way of saying weapons were planted.

[-] Zippit@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

They sue newspapers and media that say anything unfavourable about them. That's why BBC and other outlets are being super careful what and how they word shit.

A part of that 14 billion is going to propaganda and lawyers to sway public opinion.

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

Is there any coverage on lawsuits like that?

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[-] Ibex0@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

I only saw a couple old rifles. Is that a terrorist control node? I bet American hospitals have more guns.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 25 points 10 months ago

Random rope under a chair? Must be used to tie hostage. Baby bottle on top of WHO box inside a hospital? Believe it or not, hostage.

[-] dasgoat@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Calendar? Hostage.

[-] neeshie@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

God I hope they track down Monday and kill that terrorist son of a bitch.

[-] dasgoat@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Fuck you monday, you weekend ruining cunt

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[-] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

Whether the hospital was used as a base or not, presumably Hamas would take as much of their stuff out of it as possible when they retreated from it.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

My neighbor probably has more guns.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 33 points 10 months ago

Be skeptical of everything since it has increasingly become clear that propaganda is what will win this war.

But this is not an NCIS investigation. Weapons and evidence need to be checked for booby traps and reporters can't show pictures of mutilated corpses on the front page. Of course things will be rearranged.

[-] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

From what I have seen so far it doesn't really matter if it was arranged. There just isn't much evidence of a command center. Sure there may have been a few AKs and a tunnel but that's hardly a command center.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

It's not just rearranged, it's different stuff.

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[-] interceder270@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

I mean, as soon as the US decided to withholds its information on the matter we already knew the answer.

Israel is a bunch of lying shitbags. Can't trust them anymore than Russia.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Agreed. If the us had proof they would share in an instant

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[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I love the Israeli photos of WD-40 cans... as if a hospital wouldn't use that.

I got a can in my garage right now. Perhaps, there is a Hamas tunnel there.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago

Heck, it's Gaza, I wouldn't be surprised to find a gun or two hidden anywhere.

Though hiding guns right next to an MRI machine seems like a bit of a problem if you ever want to turn the MRI machine on.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

It's an active war zone. If someone comes in armed and injured, I assume they strip them. Then some poor janitor or orderly has to play makeshift armory guard until they can figure out the proper way to dispose of grenades and transfer weapons.

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[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Better bomb the whole block and bulldoze everything to make sure!

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[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Keeping metal near a MRI machine?

That is the big oddity.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah the mri magnet is always on, 24/7, you literally can't store them there. I assume when they lost electricity they must have quenched the magnet (released all the helium that keeps the coils in a super cooled super conducting state). That's the only way to actually turn it off. Very expensive and time consuming to get going again after that too. If those were in the room before the mri magnet was quenched, well, they wouldn't be very useful as guns any more, and the mri machine would probably be totaled too. So most likely any metal in that room would only have been put there recently. Go look up mri safety videos if you wanna see what happens when you bring metal into the room.

[-] palal@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago

Al-Shifa lost power, what, 5 days ago? Prior to that, the MRI machine would presumably have been on. Anyone with ANY experience in a hospital should know that MRI machines and metals (like guns, ammunition) REALLY don't mix.

[-] yeshmin@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Yes and no. MRI's require large amounts of cryogens (LN2, LHe) which would likely be impossible to get during the siege. The magnets likely quenched well before.

[-] palal@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Don't those cryogens only boil off in significant quantities of the machine can't get power?

Like, isn't that the whole reason MRI machines are never turned off?

[-] becausechemistry@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

The cryogens boil off at a pretty consistent rate no matter what, but the recovery/recompression systems do require power. So once power is cut, any boil off isn’t recovered.

Superconducting magnets (like in MRIs) can run effectively forever when at the right temperature. Turning them off requires a complex process of draining off that current slowly and carefully so that the magnet isn’t damaged. Hard to do on a normal day, and profoundly harder if there’s no power.

[-] palal@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Ahh, makes sense. That's so cool! Do you know what kind of priority a hospital would have if they were to ration electricity? Would an MRI machine be high on that list?

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[-] Zippit@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Also, telecoms have been down since last Wednesday. I'm telling you, IDF has bulldozers and no one independent to verify what they're really doing or 'finding' there. I wouldn't put it past them to dig the tunnels themselves. And they'd still manage to fuck up.

Perception is key, they've built this image of being ultra smart and tech savvy etc... Nope, all gone now.

[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

But but but I saw the IDF drop of a stack of random legal file boxes with taped on print outs that said in English "Medical Supplies"! They're the good guys!

[-] tory@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Printed on all 6 sides of the box, no less. And they were using super soldiers to lift them.... or maybe the boxes were empty. Hard to tell.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 10 months ago

Just sprinkle some Hamas on 'em. Open and shut case.

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