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submitted 21 hours ago by Pyflixia@kbin.melroy.org to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who's so fragile on opinions and things that they'll scream 'BAN THEM BAN THEM!'.

I've been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc

And I'd stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it's the same questions I've seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they'll be hours old and some of them can be years old.

I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you're allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don't really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.

I don't know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you're dealing with 50 people at any given day.

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[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

Lemmy seems to have quite a lot of people to be fair. Apparently Lemmy.world has nearly 7,000 users a day, which is quite a lot when you think about it.

One thing I think about is that maybe there are drawbacks to the Reddit-style format of Lemmy. A cool thing about old internet forums is that posts were show in chronological order with no upvotes, which is more similar to a real world conversation. You'd read the most recent posts, rather than the most upvoted posts. This means somebody new to the conversation can have their opinion seen.

The upvoting system means that a small number of posts get nearly all the upvotes and attention, and people who post later have their posts largely ignored.

Maybe I'm wrong but it's just something I thought about.

[-] spiritsong@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

I personally think maybe it's also in need of quality posts or engagement, but in larger quantities.

That said I know my post may not be quality input, but this is how I feel.

[-] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Maybe less content good? Infinitely scrolling is not great, and we all know that. Having limited content on Lemmy at allows me to at least move onto something else.

[-] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago

Yeah but also the content is quite repetitive imo

[-] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 2 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

Yeah and it depends. The fact that there is no easy way to search the fedi for similar posts right now is a bit cumbersome for sure.

I see a lot of new users post something that has already been answered a 10000x times (What's the best Linux distro? It depends !) And luckily there's always someone to give a mature and comprehensive answer to a new comer without scaring him or down voting him to oblivion. This shows that there are a lot of people who believe in Lemmy and are ready to repeat themselves to keep Lemmy alive and give new comers a warmly welcome ! However I have only seen that kind of interaction in the Linux/self-hosted communities... Most memes/ask Lemmy/political views/... Communities seems rather hostile on their own opinions and quickly become a cesspool of anger and hate :/.

Also a lot of people think because some communities have a lower user base they won't get any answer or interaction I was quite surprised to get a comprehensive answer and help in the bash@lemmy.ml community which has only 50 users/month !

[-] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 1 points 38 minutes ago

I wasn’t referring to that kind of posts, since they “plague” Reddit too, but the posts from Reddit that gets crossposted on Lemmy. It’s like there is little to no original content here. Maybe mastodon is a bit better, though I feel like it’s slowly dying ngl

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

I do, yes, especially for niche communities. But other social networks aren't the answer. Go look at what Reddit has become, or Twitter, or Facebook. It's all junk. Half of it is AIs talking to AIs. There's almost no meaningful conversation taking place. At least here we occasionally get some good conversations, although those are rare outside of politics and Linux.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 30 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I just wish it had more diversity.
Everyone's a white 40-year-old born male Linux admin in here.

[-] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 57 minutes ago

Who tf is born 40 years old???

[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 45 minutes ago

im actually a 30 y/o social sciences graduate il have you know

[-] janus2@lemmy.zip 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Hey! I'm a white 30-year-old born female Linux user, clearly Lemmy is burgeoning with diversity!

[-] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago

I'm a 40-year-old white man? I had no idea

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Sorry you had to find out this way

[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago

Welcome! Here's your complimentary Thinkpad and cat.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Congratulations. But being in your 20s is better. At least you get to be white I guess.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago

There's plenty of diversity if you join boards focused on them, like LGBTQ communities. I think the defaults just lean excessively into the demographic you described.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I only know the sex of one person on Lemmy, and she's not a man.

[-] Pyflixia@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 9 hours ago

It does. You aren't looking. I always feel a sense that I am talking to people from other parts of the world. Moreso than anywhere's else.

[-] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

Yes, but also no.

More users would be great for the fediverse, in theory. Right now Lemmy (and Mastodon) can attribute a lot of their users to people unhappy with Reddit Inc. (or X) in some way. Throwing more unhappy people into the user base would probably not lead to good outcomes.

Personally I think Lemmy and Mastodon will never get the critical mass of users needed to maintain healthy communities because the only thing they have to offer is a less bad clone of an existing network.

X is bad because a malignant political demagogue is actively destroying what most people liked about Twitter. Reddit is bad because reddit inc. cares more about profit more than the needs of the user base. But the platforms they created and/or operate aren't designed with a federated model in mind.

If the fediverse is ever going to move out of the technically savvy, early adopter nerds phase I think it's only going to do that through something new and better than what already exists.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

.world is no different than reddit so you shouldn't expect any improvement there.

for me the lemmyverse is better so far than reddit, x, or facebooks but that's because i spend most of mt time away from the diet reddit lemmyverse instances; maybe that'll work for you too.

[-] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 12 hours ago

For me the biggest problem is not volume in general but volume of niche content. The best thing about Reddit was all the active, engaging communities that would sprawl around any niche subject you could imagine.

[-] Pyflixia@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 11 hours ago

You know, you actually hit the nail on the head in the context I had failed to articulate. Like yes the Fediverse does have some interesting communities, but they're communities we expect of the fediverse to have that everyone else has. But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.

And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth. Because the point of the matter is if people are desperate for a Reddit alternative, they're going to want to feel like they're home. If there's nothing here that's going to help make them feel that, then they're going to just stick to Reddit for better or worse.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago

But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.

There's only so many communities you can maintain active with 45k monthly active users

And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth.

Why do you think we don't?

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 7 hours ago

Speaking personally, while I am here, my participation in Lemmy is lacklustre at best; same with Mastodon. I got burnt out from social media and the years from 2016 - 2024 have really ruined my enthusiasm. I think maybe a lot are in the same boat. Maybe we'll see more people come out of the "shields up, dark times overload" in a year or so... and maybe it will take longer.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 13 points 13 hours ago

Use the site less frequently and you will discover more content each time you come. I kind of like how it moves slower.

Of course, I want the fediverse to grow to. If it ever moves to fast I can always block lemmy.world and be crazy with my fellow dorks on lemmy.ml

[-] NicolaHaskell@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

So You Thought You Were Lying Low in a Space Forged by an Exodus from Society to Bury your Shoebox of Fake IDs but Nuance Defied Expectation, a Stone's Tale

[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 7 points 12 hours ago

I wish there was more people on not-so-general communities.
If this means less meme or political posts, it would be for the best. However, more specific communities that are not part of a themed instance have very little activity. If I want to learn about ecology and its science, I know I can find many active communities on slrpnk.net, if I want content that matter to Germans, I can go it feddit.org, jlai.lu the same for Frenchs. But if I want people posting picture of nice looking sticks or find !foraging stories or connect with people doing !origami@feddit.org I know that I have to be patient and that's to bad 'cause if people spend less time commenting US election or some shower thoughts, some people will find time and fun interacting in these communities and many others.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 15 hours ago

Idk man, in actually seen here and not drowned out

Little a comment I make that doesn't have any interactions, I like that

[-] mayo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Ya it's not bad. In the popular areas it seems like I can get away with just commenting on things but smaller communities I need to make a post to make it feel not-dead in there.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 76 points 20 hours ago

For more diverse content I indeed wish, but you can't build a healthy social network with an explosion of members without the moderation and toolings required to handle such a wave.

I'd rather be there while the Fediverse grows organically and gather my info from multiple sources the old fashioned way.

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[-] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 43 points 20 hours ago

No.

I have actual internet friends here. People who, based solely on their efforts and words and interactions, align with my own beliefs and ideals and help me temper and adjust accordingly as time goes on. Adults. I'd happily stay like this or with more, similar people, growing slowly and legitimately.

[-] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago

Agreed. The past year has been a great change from other social media personally. I was Reddit only for the prior 7 or so years and Lemmy feels like a time hop back to pre-dystopic Internet days. I approach it more like my favorite forums from the 90's-00's.

Less content and users are ok when it leads to more civil engagement's.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago

Same here. I find lemmy very relaxing. Multiple times a day I’ll see people admit they misunderstood and upvoting each other. It’s quite refreshing. Sure people still be people but. It feels like we care and aren’t throwing trash on the floor. Whereas Reddit everyone will wipe their ass on your nose.

[-] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I firmly believe that the reddit takeover was a part of the grand region destabilization plan to sew discord and resentment in our society by foreign powers. I caution that I am not unaware that it is exactly what or alphabet agencies have been doing to the rest of the world.

Communication among humans is the only defense. Cheers to you, friend! Thanks for contributing to the conversation.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

Honestly not a wild conspiracy. The “bad guys” would not want us to socialize/communize as that would only make us stronger in the long run and force them to compete harder.

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[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 15 points 17 hours ago

The largest Lemmy instance is the most boring, full of unfunny memes and the worst Redditor culture. What you want is high quality postrs, not simply more people!

As Lenin said: better fewer, but better.

[-] mayo@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

At this point I've blocked so many .world communities that I don't see that as much. There are some users who I notice bring the reddit antagonism and I tend to block them too. If I come across a post that is full of reddit quips I just block the whole community. I guess I've blocked fewer .ml communities overall.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Good on you! I bet that is actually working out great. I should try something similar with another account.

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I kinda like the lack of content. I don't feel like I'm missing anything here. Mastodon is too busy.

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[-] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Yes and no.

Yes, I wish the fediverse would become more adopted by the general public because it will continues to improve.

No, because people are stupid assholes

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