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“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

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[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 156 points 1 week ago

"But we'll still give him whatever he wants. That AIPAC there frightens me"

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Literally...

This comment didn't happen yesterday, it was months ago. And Biden still hasn't changed.

And it still hasn't stopped Bibi from pushing for trump

There is literally no benefit for loyalty to a facist government, the second you're not 100% with them you're 100% against them. It's the same way trump acts

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[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

AIPAC and Citizens United are actually frightening.

https://abcnews.go.com/538/pro-israel-groups-spent-big-oust-squad-members/story?id=113675889

https://apnews.com/article/cori-bush-aipac-house-race-missouri-568c1a84974b8ba176a8d27a8375de42

They are able to change the outcome of races with seemingly unlimited money. A spend of 8.4 million in a Missouri primary is absurd, and likely is a drop in the bucket of what is spent influencing the presidential race.

I don't think there is a way to fix this either, since the people that should be writing laws to prevent it are the ones benefiting the most.

I imagine this is also happening in Republican primaries, so one can't just vote differently to address the root cause. Both republicans and Democrats seem to be tripping over each other to prove what a friend they are to Israel. It's really weird and stressful to be a US citizen right now.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 148 points 1 week ago

Maybe stop sending them billions in weapons then, eh?

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In an election year? That's political suicide in the US to Harris by proxy, given how many people are brainwashed over there.

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[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 64 points 1 week ago

Can we stop reporting on Biden or whoever else using salty language unless it’s something along the lines of “I’m cutting off the fucking military aid.”?

[-] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That won't happen, both parties are bought out by AIPAC, just AIPAC will stop splitting the money and give it only to the one who doesn't give them what they want. If a Democrat president said "I'm ending this here, enough bloodshed" AIPAC would fund the Republicans, despite how much Republicans hate Jews, quietly and publicly.

I'm not trying to defend the literal actual genocide, I'm trying to say the money makes them keep their hands flowing with greenbacks and blood of civilians.

EDIT: The two below, I blocked you before two for being liberals who have defended genocide and argue that somehow Democrats need to support the genocide and its a good thing that AIPAC owns both parties. Mainly soup is a troll who acts smarter than everyone else.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

said Biden privately

You literally just gave a fucking press conference.

[-] forrcaho@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

I don't know how he would ever have expected anything different from Netanyahu. It's not like this is the first time he failed to show the "restraint" Biden pleaded for (while simultaneously providing him with an unlimited supply of weapons).

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The logical conclusion in the face of Biden's other actions such as keeping on sending weapons to Netanyahu and protecting him in the UN, is that this "leak" is a purposeful and carefully crafted bit of PR from Biden's team.

By their own track record, Biden and his minions are about as trustworthy as Netanyahu.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

No shit, Joe!

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 26 points 1 week ago

put up or shut up motherfucker.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

When this originally leaked months ago (almost a year actually), people were getting down voted for saying Biden was just mad that Netanyahu was making him look bad in PR.

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

A "bad guy!" My word, Mr. President, what next, we'll stop sending them money? Have some decorum.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nice to know that he at least can acknowledge reality?

But behind it is a state dept that is ignoring it's own studies rank indictment of isreals murderous actions in order to keep feeding the beast. Maybe it's some far-flung plan to give isreal and netenyahoo all the rope they need to hang themselves, becoming global outcasts, which would then force them into accepting a two-state solution... Or the problem is a lot simpler.

The records and interviews also show that the pressure to keep the arms pipeline moving also comes from the U.S. military contractors who make the weapons. Lobbyists for those companies have routinely pressed lawmakers and State Department officials behind the scenes to approve shipments both to Israel and other controversial allies in the region, including Saudi Arabia. When one company executive pushed his former subordinate at the department for a valuable sale, the government official reminded him that strategizing over the deal might violate federal lobbying laws, emails show.

Weapons sales are a pillar of American foreign policy in the Middle East. Historically, the U.S. gives more money to Israel for weapons than it does to any other country. Israel spends most of those American tax dollars to buy weapons and equipment made by U.S. arms manufacturers.

Don't forget, while Biden and his state dept. is in charge of investigating and ensuring the proper use of these weapons, it's congress that's approving it. A congress that is balls-deep invested in U.S. weapons manufacturers.

For Israel and NATO allies, if the sale is worth at least $100 million for weapons or $25 million for equipment, Congress also gets final approval.

The most widely held defense contractor stock among senators and representatives is Honeywell, an American company that makes sensors and guiding devices that are being used by the Israeli military in its airstrikes in Gaza. The second most commonly held defense stock by Congress is RTX, formerly known as Raytheon, the company that makes missiles for Israel’s Iron Dome, among other weapons systems. - Sludge Article

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