Venezuela’s Supreme Court of Justice confirms validity of Maduro victory (peoplesdispatch.org)

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[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago

Clearly this is an act of a truly crooked and evil supreme court subverting the will of the people. This kind of thing would never happen in the good old USA. /s

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

You got me until the end.

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

Uhm, isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

biden-troll

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

So... Are they going to publish those voting tallies publically yet? What's taking the CNE so long on that?

[-] Doesntpostmuch@possumpat.io -2 points 3 weeks ago

Ridiculous, a court packed with maduoro loyalists back maduoro. Who would have thought.

https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-election-supreme-court-certifies-maduro-39d9f3b9beb0fe96fa052e4d2a3c106b

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

Quoting something that AP says without substantiation is not actually a good citation. It's not like Maduro appointed the judges.

[+] Doesntpostmuch@possumpat.io -6 points 3 weeks ago

I'll quote them again for you:

The high court’s ruling certifying the results contradicts the findings of experts from the United Nations and the Carter Center who were invited to observe the election and which both determined the results announced by authorities lacked credibility.

Just becuse Maduro is a socialist doesn't mean he's not a piece of shit who lost the election. Dictator's play both sides of the political spectrum.

[-] Chump@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

Does the article say that Maduro appointed the judges? Thus far I only see a claim that it's packed with Maduro loyalists... which is pretty far from an unbiased framing

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

Maduro isn't a socialist, Chavists aren't socialists and he's openly a Chavist (i.e. a follower in the tradition of Hugo Chavez, who was a great progressive but not really a socialist).

I don't give a shit what the Carter Center has to say about any of America's enemies, and they provide no means to evaluate the substance of the claim by "experts from the UN" (which is different from a report by the UN or an official committee of the UN).

And, again, Maduro did not appoint the judges; he doesn't even have the power to.

Maybe most pertinently: Do you not remember last election cycle, when all the neoliberal news outlets were joined together in their outrage over the NED and friends saying Maduro stole the election, only for that claim to "just turn out" to be pulled from thin air? Do we need to do this every six years when a US-backed reactionary loses?

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Do we need to do this every six years when a US-backed reactionary loses?

Maybe it's just me but it seems the synchronization of public opinion on reddit / lemmy with Empire seems to be getting worse. (EDIT: It seems to be getting more "convincing")

Like there was some opposition from the "progressives" and "leftists" about the Juan Guaidó sham and you could argue about it without getting downvoted into oblivion, but now very few dare to talk about the latest attempt to capture Venezuela's oil.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Lemmy.world is crazy. It's almost the same downvote "philosophy" than Redfit and the instance has a huge userbase.

[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Would take a piece of shit that serves the people over a piece of shit that would loot, plunder, and sell national assets to capitalists 100/100 times.

[-] Doesntpostmuch@possumpat.io -1 points 3 weeks ago

He has shat the bed for his country and the people are paying the price. Maybe let the people decide the leader of their country?

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That seems to be what they're figuring out. The right wing candidate didn't even submit their voting tallies to the Supreme Court or participate in any of the investigations while everyone else did (including other anti-Maduro candidates). What are they supposed to use to determine popular will? Screenshot of papers printed in Machado's basement?

I wouldn't be surprised if some shenanigans happened until they publish their results by polling location, but until then all we have to go on is uncooperative opposition and US-based think tanks (the country that's tried to coup Venezuela basically every other year since Chavez).