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Theory vs Practice (lemmygrad.ml)
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[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Meanwhile, mutual aid and cooperation: "I have extra goods I don't need. Want them?"

"Sure, I'll distribute them around to my crew. Let us know if you need anything too."

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

That works pretty well in simple tribal societies where all that needs to be shared around is food, water, hunting supplies, and that sort of thing.

You can't really build the smartphone or computer you posted this from with "mutual aid." That takes very organized and technical supply chains and processes, which precludes the kind of voluntary gift economy you allude to.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's an entire operating system running most servers, smartphones, and embedded devices in the world right now that was created this way under a special license designed to promote code sharing and cooperation. It's famous enough that I probably don't have to mention it here. Anybody can use it, anybody can contribute.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

You mean the one whose development is largely funded and directed by a very large mega corporation and which is almost exclusively deployed under license from that megacorp

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Linux. I'm talking about Linux.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Okay. Fair enough with servers but I don't think saying that smartphones are running Linux is really descriptive. Android is a fork

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same kernel, different userland. Point is, Google benefited from code others wrote. Most without compensation from Google. That's what a fork is. And the license is sticky. Even if they fork it, Google simply cannot "un-GPL" parts of its code that were originally licensed under it. They have to make it available to others, legally.

Check your phone yourself. You'll find several mentions of open source licenses in the system info section.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, open source software is a thing. Not common in all markets but it's a thing. Open source hardware really is not

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Mutual Aid is part of Anarchism. It's about strengthening your sense of community and viewing your community as a means of survival without taking it for granted, like we do under capitalism. In an anarchist society, you could get a smart phone or a computer through Industrial Unionism. You should really look into these concepts.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

I'm less interested in theoretical concepts and more interested in things that work in reality.

[-] HonestMistake_@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The only thing our current way of running the world is great at, is making the planet an inhospitable hellhole for the vast majority of life, so there's that.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

"capitalism is when overpopulation"

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The only thing you seem interested in is remaining ignorant to anything that doesn't fit your worldview.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

That's what I thought lol

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