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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Your point:

If I were to go to a group of young, impressionable kids in a developed country where they are living comfortably, how successful would I be in recruiting them to be in a militia?

Apparently you answered your own question now: yes, those kids in that developed country would be successfully recruited to be in a militia. Or at least do a militia's bidding.

Nah, never happens in America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Rittenhouse

And do tell me about Kyle's tragic upbringing full of hardship.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

You're giving me another singular example that i can probably nitpick. I'm giving you thousands. You're not familiar with the success of this strategy to recruit kids , as you said in a previous comment, because it doesn't happen where you live. It doesn't happen because people don't feel the need to, and kids don't want to do that by default. The radicalization didn't happen because someone came and said, "Hey kid, wanna get paid?". It happened over the course of decades as kids grew up with missiles flying over their heads repeatedly and their friends and families dying. What did you expect these kids to do?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago

You’re not familiar with the success of this strategy to recruit kids

And you are? How did you become familiar with it? Or is this just a guess on your part?

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

It's pretty obvious, man. I literally just explained why people like you and me, who live in a developed country, don't really see it happening.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Sure. Apart from the specific times I mentioned where you do see it happening. And all the other times you see it happening.

And it still doesn't make child soldiers either moral or excusable.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

One. You gave me one example. I gave you thousands.

I never said it was moral or excusable. All I said is, what did you expect would happen given what we're doing to them. You have a lot of anger over the people forced to do bad things for survival but not against the ones who created the situation where they need to do these bad things. Why is this such a difficult concept for you to understand?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

I gave you two actually. I can give you more.

You have a lot of anger over the people forced to do bad things for survival

Ah, so they are being forced. Thank you, that's what I was saying.

By the way, the idea that the only way you can survive is die on the battlefield doesn't make much sense.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

No, you gave me one. I explained why the first one actually helped prove my point. Which is why you provided the second. And I'm too tired to read that person's biography to point to why he actually did it and give him some kind of justification. Unless you can give me some kind of substantive example where there are a huge number of kids in developed countries who are having happy lives you're point here is not justified.

Ah, so they are being forced

Now you're just not even arguing in good faith here.

By the way, the idea that the only way you can survive is die on the battlefield doesn't make much sense.

Is this your way of dismissing their suffering and their choices to defend themselves even in the face of overwhelming odds?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I gave you two. Squeaky Fromme and Kyle Rittenhouse.

If you're going to gaslight me, try harder.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

No, I didn't forget about it. But you're pretending the comment I made after that doesn't exist. It's some pretty pathetic gaslighting, I must say.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm really not gaslighting you. I've been doing nothing but giving you explanations on why thousands of children feel compelled to hate a nation half a world away and you're doing everything you can to dance around the topic without directly acknowledging it.

It's clear this back and forth is pointless as you don't want to acknowledge the real reason why countries like Yemen have all these militia groups who all hate the US. I'll just leave you with this to think on however. In something like 5-10 years, when you see an influx in terrorist attacks on western nations. Similar to what we say in the 2010s, which were caused by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which were caused by 9/11, which were in turn caused by US interference in topics like Israel and the Gulf War. I'll just ask you to remember this conversation, and think on why this cycle of violence keeps getting repeated and where it keeps coming from.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

You acted like I never mentioned Kyle Rittenhouse despite mentioning him twice. You even outright suggested I only gave you one name.

That's called gaslighting.

I didn't even read past that first sentence. You clearly have an honesty problem.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 1 points 58 minutes ago

No, I didn't acknowledge the Squeaky Fromme example for the reasons I provided to you in a previous comment. Maybe actually read my comments before jumping to conclusions? Blindly accusing someone of something is not a good trait to have, especially from someone who's been entrusted to moderate communities like this one.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

And now you're lying about the conversation.

"Forgot about this, did you?" linked directly to my Squeaky Fromme comment. Directly to it.

All I can say is you're damn lucky I'm not the moderator dealing with this thread because I'm done with your trolling and gaslighting.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 1 points 50 minutes ago

Re-read your screenshot. This is just getting sad.

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