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[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

No, HVEC / H.265 codec support so no modern 4K security camera or plex/jellyfin etc high quality video support.

[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 1 points 10 minutes ago

https://caniuse.com/hevc

looks like the bigger issue is hvec itself. Also the support is extremely spotty with all the other browsers as well, with it still only having limited support in Chrome as well depending on your hardware.

Or just use av1 instead. I've literally never run into this as an issue before lol.

[-] wax@feddit.nu 6 points 9 hours ago

Probably no ads on your self-hosted frigate/jellyfin pages though, so you can just keep using chrome for that ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

Jellyfin

Use the desktop client or jellyfin-mpv-shim and you'll get HEVC support and superior image quality.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago

According to caniuse.com, it works now in the Nightly builds and can be enabled in other builds via the media.wmf.hevc.enabled pref in about:config.

I use Firefox Dev Edition and I think it’s enabled there. But either way, you can enable it on stable.

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 0 points 16 hours ago

Night, windows only, and needs to be enabled with about: config.. ie it almost has some support maybe. Also doesn't work via webrtc so it doesn't actually help me with the viewing the security cam feeds.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago
[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 hours ago

Core web app compatibility vs ..... "enhanced" ad blocking. MS teams and some other business tools also don't support Firefox but work fine in Chrome and Safari.

It is something the Firefox team needs to work on again. I used Firefox from when it was released until Chrome came out and mopped the floor with it. At the time Firefox became the bloated beast and went through a reset.

Unfortunately trying to have a firm stance on not implementing HVEC when they no longer had the largest market share was a bad move and they seem to be slowly back tracking on that.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

MS Teams not working as well in Firefox is a "we want you using Edge or Chrome" Microsoft issue, not a Firefox issue.

You wouldn't believe the amount of enterprise-sector MS websites that have went from works fine on Firefox to completely broken on anything but Chrome and Edge very quickly after Edge became Chrome with a lick of paint.

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca -2 points 9 hours ago

I work in IT I am well aware.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

So it's not something Firefox needs to work on, it's something Microsoft should be punished for. The bulk of these sites for fine if you spoof your useragent to look like edge or chrome, proving it's nothing to do with browser capability.

They're using their market position to sabotage a competitor.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 18 hours ago

plex/jellyfin etc high quality video support

H265 isn't the only option there. AV1 is great and fully supported by Jellyfin (and I imagine Plex?)

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

H.265 is the defecto standard on Security cameras, and I am not going to migrate content to AV1 that is already in H.265.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago

Use VLC to view the video feed for your cams, better experience overall for that

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

Not when you are using an NVR with scrubbing and everything in the web UI. https://frigate.video/

All in all it would be an inconvenient workaround for something that already works seamlessly across Safari, Edge, Chrome etc.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago

damn dude, all you do is bitch. maybe get a different camera setup.

[-] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

How is giving a sober and straightforward explanation of why he can’t use Firefox “bitching”? The simple fact is “switch to Firefox” isn’t a solution for everyone in every case. Burying your head in the sand about that benefits nobody.

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

It is generally hard to have an opposing opinion or need discussion on the internet without people feeling attacked and start name calling.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 hours ago

They can enjoy some ads then, I guess. But it was the general attitude of unwillingness to entertain suggestions and just shutting down every one.

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 hours ago

Na man I have modern 4k cameras, I need a modern browser.. They have literally build chipsets around this and many standards call for h.264 or h.265. That isn't changing.

Mozilla decided over 8 years ago not to support HVEC because of patents..

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1332136

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 17 hours ago

Jellyfin can handle the transcoding to AV1 where needed. Albeit that's a bit less ideal than direct play as you need the hardware to transcode.

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Not spending hundreds to upgrade my server to support 4K to 4K transcoding. Even accelerated on a VERY recent CPU or GPU Encoding in AV1 is costly while at the same time decoding H.265.

Again Essentially every major browser supports HVEC now, other than Firefox.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

If it's a personal machine in which you have a choice on browser why not just use one of the native Jellyfin apps?

major browser supports HVEC now, other than Firefox.

Every other major browser is an overcommercialized pile of crap (or built atop the same) that can afford to pay for the licenses to use HEVC or has no qualms shipping proprietary code with their software that they don't control.

Also apparently on Windows you can enable experimental HEVC hardware decoding support. You'll need to install "HEVC Video Extensions" (from Microsoft themselves) ($0.99) in the Windows App Store and toggle "media.wmf.hevc.enabled" in about:config.

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