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Russia says it will change nuclear doctrine because of Western role in Ukraine (www.reuters.com)

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Russia will make changes to its doctrine on the use of nuclear weapons in response to what it regards as Western escalation in the war in Ukraine, state media quoted Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying on Sunday.

The existing nuclear doctrine, set out in a decree by President Vladimir Putin in 2020, says Russia may use nuclear weapons in the event of a nuclear attack by an enemy or a conventional attack that threatens the existence of the state.

Some hawks among Russia's military analysts have urged Putin to lower the threshold for nuclear use in order to "sober up" Russia's enemies in the West.

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[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 48 points 2 weeks ago

No they won't. If Putin isn't a complete idiot, he knows that using nukes will be the end of Russia.

https://youtu.be/v4mZPc_kkys

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 24 points 2 weeks ago

It's worse than that. Russia knows they can never use nukes preemptively, it's why they have their policy.

Russia is one of the most centralized countries in the world, everything revolves around Moscow, all political and economic power, all administration, without Moscow they know Russia is dead.

The whole point of a nuke is that it eats cities, their paranoia that Moscow would be hit during the cold War was extreme, they put incredible amounts of money into air and missile defenses and demanded carve outs to the abm treaties specifically for Moscow.

Because Russia isn't a country, it's an empire ruled from Moscow, and it Moscow was destroyed it would instantly cease to be a country.

Basically, if things reached a point where Moscow's control over the rest of Russia was at risk, that's when you'd see them start to negotiate.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Putin also has grandkids. I am guessing he doesn't want them to die.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's a bit more nuanced than that. Russia would immediately be at war with every other nuclear state, but there wouldn't necessarily be retaliatory nuclear strikes unless Russia began firing missiles at nuclear states too. The video I linked is a from a Danish professor who describes really well the dynamics of misusing nuclear weapons.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

.. if he isn't a complete idiot...

Hmm... Lol.

On a serious note, a lot of people here seem to forget that any nuclear weapon hurts the entire planet and all of us in it. It is weird to see people who supposedly care about injustices suddenly go 100% in on devastating the ecosystem and mass murdering inocents (since you know, nuclear bombs are traditionally not used on military targets).

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 5 points 2 weeks ago

lol indeed 🥲 Very much a war of Russian stupidity.

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