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The ruler of Ukraine is playing a game called “Defend my country from foreign invaders”.
Putin embarrassed himself by allowing it to get to this point. Russia is into year three of the war that was supposed to last a few days, over what is ostensibly his ego alone.
You are saying it in a sarcastic way but for them it's pretty much a game. Rulers don't fight their wars they send peasants to die for them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Ukraine#2024
"As of 26 April 2024, the Polish government has offered, and the Lithuania governments is considering, repatriating Ukrainian men living in their countries to Ukraine. So that they can be drafted into the Ukrainian military"
What do you mean “Sending them”? Send them where? The war is on their home soil. They don’t have to be “sent” anywhere. Even the guys who fought into Russia are doing so to get the Russians OUT of Ukraine.
And what do you mean Zelenskyy is sending them to die for “him”. The Ukrainian soldier aren’t dying for Zelenskyy. They’re fighting and dying for their friend, family, and countrymen raped and killed by foreign invaders.
What do you mean “Sending them”? Send them where? The war is on their home soil.
To the front that's where they are fighting. Not sure if you have seen it but many front lines are now wastelands where nobody lives anymore. Soldiers get send there to fight over invisible lines on the map.
A soldier and a member of the army fights for the government. Why do you think conscription is a thing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Ukraine#2024
"Zelenskyy did not support a petition to allow men between the ages of 18 and 60 to leave the country abroad."
Please highlight in my history any posts that you consider bullshit and not even close to being objective. The reason why i'm being downvoted is that many people are feed up on government propaganda so much that they downvote any comment that doesn't align with the official narrative. For decades the government has push anti-russian propaganda and we have reach a point where any sort of criticism can comfortably be labeled as russia propaganda.
Are you aware that USA spend way much more money than russia in propaganda?
Every single post in this thread of yours is nonsense. Blatantly illogical and poorly reasoned pro-Russia propaganda. Not a single one of your arguments has any basis in reality and none of your assertions are even coherent.
Go ahead and find a single post in my entire history were i actually advocate something pro-russia. You are calling out my arguments but i'm waiting to hear yours.
Every single comment you’ve made has been to downplay the legitimacy of Ukraine’s fight to defend their home from Russian invaders. That is the goal of Russia, meaning every comment of yours is pro-Russian agenda.
That's your one side brainwashed take. Forcing people to fight for your authoritarian corrupted government is wrong and what countries like russia do. Highlighting this has nothing to do with downplay the legitimacy of people to defend themself.
It’s not a side, nor is it a take. It’s literally just what you’ve done here today and literally everyone but you can see that.
The front where they’re fighting in on their home soil. They don’t need to be “sent there”, it’s their homeland. They’re not invisible lines in a map, it’s their land, their homes. The homes of their families, their friends, their community, their countrymen. They’re fighting for eachother. It doesn’t get any more noble than that. Nobody lives there anymore because of the foreign invaders. If they win the war, people can live there again. That’s literally what they’re fighting for, not “The government”.
You are commenting in a thread that is about this war moving on russian soil.
Their homeland it's not the front. Nobody lives in the front anymore, you can take a look at the many videos of combat footage available to see the destruction that got left behind. The land and homes got wrecked by both sides.
By definition a soldier of the army works and fight for the government. Anyone is free to fight for the reason they want but conscripts are forced to become soldiers and fight for the government.
The thread is about an operation on Russian soil, during a conflict exclusively over Ukrainian soil. One group operating just over the border in Russia in a defensive war doesn’t change the fact that the front line is in Ukraine. The objecting of the operation remains restoring the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Their homeland is in fact the front. Their homeland consists of the entire country of Ukraine. Even the forests and the fields. Even the ruins of their homes. Even the graves of their loved ones killed by Russian invaders. The homes may have been destroyed by Russia, but once the war is won the Ukraines can return there. That is the point.
After the war ends it will take a lot of years before the front lines becomes habitable again:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_munition#Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine,_2022
The front is where they fight and where troops are being sent, i suggest you to grab a map of ukraine and to watch the videos of this war.
Well then they better fight hard to win the war sooner so they can get a start on making their country habitable again. Operating into Russia seems like the fastest way to achieve that.
The front is on their native soil, which they don’t need to be sent to. Thats where they already were, it’s their own country.
The front has now also moved to russia.
https://militaryland.net/maps/deployment-map/
Here's a map that can help you understand where they are fighting and where the front is.
Lviv is about 800km from the east front which is about the distance between UK and Italy
As you can clearly see on the map, the front is in Ukraine. One operation has pushed part of it into Russia from the Ukraine, but the front line remains on their home soil. The goal of the operation that pushed into Russia is to remove the foreign invaders from the Ukraine, so its purpose is also to support the fighting that exists on the front in the Ukraine, their home soil.
Either a victim of disinformation or a victim of disinformation who gets some sort of material benefit for spewing more propaganda and dogma. Either way, they should be reported for their own good and that of everyone else using the platform. We need to safeguard information integrity and prevent the victims from instigating a global conflict, potentially a nuclear one. Because that is what it ultimately comes down to. Ironically, this also means saving many russians from their regime and themselves.