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[-] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I started writing out a timeline but I don't know what position you're asking from so I will say for the sake of brevity that the US kept the KMT from being run out of all of China [...] which make up its other value to the US besides geographical position.

Yes, I know about its not-so-glorious past and the White Terror. Thousands of innocent civilians were killed. It was terrible. However, I must respectfully disagree with you on the "puppet state" part. I don't think that Taiwan is a puppet state. The US sponsoring Taiwan is a thing of the past. Neither is a pathetic diplomatic position a good reason for being a puppet state.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

if US support dropped overnight, reunification with the mainland would become inevitable. it's a puppet state in the sense that it's propped up by the might of the US/NATO military.

[-] randint@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago
[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

It's kind of a weird way to define a puppet state IMO, because you could make the same case for a lot of countries. Like the US supports the Mexican government, and would have likely already been overthrown by the Sinoloa Cartel without US support. So is Mexico a puppet state?

[-] randint@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Hey now that you mention this, it does kind of make less sense. But I think I should be taking a break from this horrible post. There is no use arguing with someone that is completely unwilling to change their mind. Look at my comment history. I've already wasted hours.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't see this reply before. The other commenter has it right that the relevance of its pathetic diplomatic position is that it is being propped up by the US/NATO and ultimately depends on them to exist apart from the PRC, which makes it very difficult to oppose them. Incidentally, does the US not sponsor Taiwan? Even just recently there was this, which sure seems like sponsorship to me.

[-] randint@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Apparently being sponsored by a foreign state is now counted as being a puppet state?

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

That part was in response to you saying:

The US sponsoring Taiwan is a thing of the past

I could have formatted it better, but the rest was focused on the puppet part and then I prefaced the sponsorship part with "Incidentally" to indicate changing over to an adjacent subject.

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