268
submitted 5 months ago by Wilshire@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 32 points 5 months ago

I just want to note here that airliners do not rely solely on GPS for navigation, in fact GPS is usually just one form of backup for navigation instructions received from air traffic controllers.

[-] gbzm@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

That's only true around landing and takeoff. For the most part their navigation relies on hybridized data from their inertial, air data and GPS, with several redundancies in place for bad readings and cumulative errors. Among all of this autonomous measurement apparatus, the GPS is the only part that doesn't require numeric integration from speed or acceleration data to yield a position reading, and thus it is the only one that doesn't drift over time. It's actually fairly important, and it's why using the gnss jammers you can find on amazon is super illegal

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Among all of this autonomous measurement apparatus, the GPS is the only part that doesn’t require numeric integration from speed or acceleration data to yield a position reading

My point is that in the airspace we're talking about, GPS is not the only source of accurate positional information. ATC radars and transponders can and do provide reliable position information all over that area, and it is ATC that's responsible for routing and separation in those specific airspaces, not the pilots. ADS-B does rely on GPS, that's true, so if there was a complete outage of GPS in an area, that might mean delays due to additional separation requirements, as ATC won't get accurate secondary information back from the airliners' GPS units.

All I'm saying is that while losing GPS would be a bother, European flight control won't start losing airliners and as a pilot you won't end up in Malmö instead of Helsinki just because GPS is down. Worst case scenario is congestion and delays at the destination airport, and possible diversions because of that.

this post was submitted on 23 Apr 2024
268 points (96.2% liked)

World News

38578 readers
2703 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS