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Man, Microsoft really seems like they don't want power users on their OS anymore. Forced AI junk, Ads, MS accounts, and all kinds of other junk. Waiting to see what the Linux Desktop adoption numbers are this fall.
2023 was the year of the Linux laptop for me. 2024 is shaping up to be the year of the Linux desktop for myself as well.
Still sad because my Precision 5560 (same as XPS 9510) has this floaty trackpad bug on Ubuntu and Pop OS for whatever reason! (I haven't tried any other distro). Much easier for me to swap to Linux on my laptop than my desktop because my laptop is just for Python, LaTeX, and MATLAB.
Dell even sells a 5560 with Ubuntu preinstalled, but they don't make it available for users. But I have not for the life of me been able to get the track-pad bug to go away.
Here's the fix (yoinked from archwiki)
Sadly I've been at this thread and done this already, did not work :(
People think it's just due to the trackpads being crap (and somehow Windows gets around it). I'll probably never need to buy another laptop, but if I do I will probably not buy a Dell again regardless of how much I love every other aspect of this laptop.
Try a more modern kernel. Lookup installing mainline kernels on Ubuntu. Pretty easy.
You could wait a couple of days and try ubuntu 24.04
with its much newer kernel it might not have that issue
Funny, I just picked up a Laptop for Linux. To help bring my self to a Linux Desktop.
What's the tidiest distro these days?
I'd say that depends a lot on what you want it to do. Are you looking for a very simple and easy desktop experience? Go with Ubuntu or one of its many derivatives. Do you pine for the glory days of RedHat? Go with fedora. Do you want maximal control over every facet of your computer? Arch.
the only reason i wouldnt recommend ubuntu nowadays is snaps. they make the system so sloooow.
I recommend Mint Debian edition. It's pretty easy to get into, without a lot of the nonsense Ubuntu comes with.
I personally use openSUSE Tumbleweed, which has worked pretty well for me for the last 5 years or so. However, it's a really bleeding edge distro and not Debian based, so you may have issues finding help (I'm available if interested).
Look around and find something you like. Anything Ubuntu, Debian, or Fedora-based should be pretty safe in the "getting help" department.
Mint Virginia. It's easy distro to navigate. Has all the drivers. It's quick and simple.
Every person is going to have different opinions as to what distro works best for them. What exactly are you looking for in an ideal operating system?
Best would be to try different ones and see which one works best for you, but if I had more of an idea of what you're looking for and what kind of hardware you're using, I'd be able to recommend some distros to try out.
Are you a power user? Do you prefer stability or always having the latest software? Do you value ease of use or do you consider yourself more of a power user? Do you want to learn how to use the Terminal, or whould you rather avoid it and use graphical tools instead?
Also different desktop environments, even on the same distro will provide vastly different experiences.
NixOS is the tidiest. Having all your configurations in one or two files is excellent
As a NixOS user myself, I wouldn't recommend it to someone new to Linux.
The person never said they were new to Linux
Aye, I used Ubuntu back when I was working retail, as I'd put it on units which didn't have Windows licences.
How comfortable are you with using the Terminal and learning a new scripting language (called Nix)?
The former is fine for copying and pasting. The latter probably not something I can be arsed with.
The latter is still mostly copying and pasting too FYI, along with reading error messages that generally tell you exactly what's wrong.
Also, NixOS, is not FHS-compliant, so regular Linux binaries will not run without pagching or running it through a wrapper. AppImages work, but needs appimage-run. Flatpaks work fine as well.
I would only recommend NixOS if the concept of everything being inside of a configuration file that you can copy between machines sounds intriguing to you; otherwise, if you still want ultimate control over everything and want to use a Terminal, Arch. If you just want something that works without having to worry about configuration or copying Terminal commands, I'd go with Pop OS or Linux Mint Debian Edition.
As much as I like to see this sentiment, I think now as ever the people who actually follow through with moving to Linux will be few in number.
Most users who get fed up and decide the hell with it are likely to just buy a Mac instead, as revolting a development as that may be.
yeah this was me. swapped to Mac. Couldn't bring myself to sign up to all the debugging that would go into having a Linux based laptop. I left windows due to the overhead of disabling the bloatware, popups and general bullshit. I didn't want to swap that for other ongoing issues. Just give me something that works. It's an OS, not a hobby project
Yeah, but Mac is actually weird and unintuitive. Like, I never figured out that to install programs you have to drag them in. I just clicked on the icon after opening the .dmg
My brother got a Mac for work. He couldn't get used to the fact that a simple press of the Home key wouldn't go to the start of the line; it goes to the start of the FILE.
Why??
Oh that would do my head in, i use home to go to the start of a line extensively
It's so funny that you use the word "unintuitive" and the describe the most intuitive way of adding a program to your computer. ๐
How would I know to drag anything anywhere?
How do you get new furniture into your house?
Our way, since I'm a Windows and Linux user, of adding applications is a remnant from the old times. We have left the age where computers are maintained by men in white coats and powerful computers took up while buildings.
Apples way is more intuitive since it mimics how it most often works in the real world.
Computers should adapt to humans, not the other way around.
I add the furniture to my
configuration.nixand rebuild the whole houseAdoption rate is increasing from what I've heard. But you're right, Linux/a Linux distribution isn't going to take over anytime soon.
But I think once those users truly switched to Linux, very few will switch back. Sure there'll be the odd gamer who absolutely "needs" to play that one game which has anti-cheat that's unsupported on Linux. But other than that, once you're in, you're likely in for good. And long-term you pass it on to your family, mainly your children (my first computer was a DOS/Windows machine mostly because my dad used the OS himself then).
Yeah, I switched to Mint back in 2019 and can't imagine going back. I have a Windows dual boot for certain games, but whenever I use it it feels like such a terrible experience compared to Linux. I don't think I've used it in a couple months because of that lol.
That's fine, actually. I can talk to a Mac user. I can say things like "it's in a folder under your Home directory" and they will know exactly where that is. Windows users will just stare at you, slack-jawed and drooling.
Windows user A will not know what their home directory is and will respond as described. Windows user B will assume that it is their "my documents" folder, which may or may not be the case, because: Windows user C will know that there are effectively three home directories in Windows (/users/username, /users/username/documents, and /users/username/appadata/local) but that won't help anybody determine which one some program actually put the goddamn file in.
Which has the exact same issues, but they are presented as "ecosystem" so it's ok
Sounds more like they don't want any users
they dont, they want subscribers
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