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[-] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 14 points 6 months ago

We’re probably lucky that AI spammers haven’t discovered the Fediverse yet, but if the Fediverse does actually become big enough for mainstream use, we’ll see Twitter level reaction spam in no time, and no amount of CAPTCHAs will be able to stop it.

I was thinking about this the other day. We might have to move to a whitelist federation model with invite-only instances at some point.

The downside of that approach is that AI can pretend to be humans wanting to join quite well. It's possible to set up a lobster.rs like system where there's a tree of people you've invited so admins can cull entire spam groups at once, but that also has its downsides (i.e. it's impossible to join if none of your friends have already joined, or if you don't want to attach your online socials to your friends).

[-] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

where there’s a tree of people you’ve invited.

And that is how you get singular point of view echo chamber.

[-] Robin_net@beehaw.org 6 points 6 months ago

Most of the internet is made up of echo chambers now even though anyone and everyone can access a majority of it. I don't think being selective in who we allow into communities worsens the pre-existing echo chamber issue. If anything it may help to be more selective. It can sometimes be impossible to tell the difference between trolls, bots, and real people, so I feel like we assume every person we disagree with is a troll or bot. The issue with that is that we may be outright dismissing real opinions. In theory, everyone in a selective community is a real person who is expressing their true thoughts and feelings.

[-] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago

It's a trade off that we'll probably have to take unless we want to deanonymize the internet.

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I don't think that's a perfect system anyway though, spammers could create a massive tree of fake accounts and just only use a small proportion of them for spam

Use a number of compromised user accounts to set this up and it becomes a nightmare

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