France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza (www.nytimes.com)

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[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 8 months ago

You really need to look up the legal definition of genocide. No. I will not provide a link. Put as much effort into research as you put into writing from the perspective of ignorance. I'll get you started. Genocide is not defined as the intent to exterminate a genotype.

[+] mozz@mbin.grits.dev -14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm gonna look past your totally unnecessary hostility and just say I looked it up and you're 100% right. Trying to eradicate Palestine as a nation is genocide, even if they don't literally kill all the ethnic Palestinians. And yeah, that undercuts what I was saying a little bit... IDK, maybe you could argue that by couching it in terms that could be debated instead of "simpler" war crimes they were still trying to overcharge the offense, but it's a lot shakier.

(Edit: Actually, wait, no. It's debatable on the world stage whether they're literally trying to eradicate the nation of Palestine. They can claim that they're "only reacting to terrorism" or etc. I think that's bullshit and they are trying to eradicate Palestine, but I still think that charging them with the simple war crimes that no one can with a straight face deny that they're doing would still be a much stronger case.)

I think the hostility is especially silly since on this topic I'm obviously on your side and opposed to the slaughter of Palestinians by the Israelis.

[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago

Genocide denier complains about hostility.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Still not got it right:

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Netanyahu literally just said Israel will stretch from the river to the sea. Intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national ethnical group by killing them, causing serious bodily and mental harm to them, deliberately imprisoning them, poisoning them, occupying them, killing them.

My hostility stems from the fact that you have no excuse for not knowing this at this late stage of the conflict if you're on the same side of the issue as me. No investigation, no right to speak.