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submitted 8 months ago by Custoslibera@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml

It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.

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[-] Chriswild@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Honestly, picking Trump again is a good thing for the rest of us. We know he can lose and because of the last presidential election and his base is just getting smaller.

It's not like any Republican is a good candidate. All of them think abortion is a crime and will appoint shit supreme court justices. So give me the one I know loses because they lost before.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago

None of the other candidates had a chance at winning. That is not the same as Trump having a chance at losing.

[-] panchzila@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I think he is implying that trump has already lost an election.

[-] Chriswild@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

As long as everyone who voted before votes again it's just the same result because neither candidate is running on anything new.

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Except Bidens base is also getting smaller. The whole funding a genocide thing isn't exactly winning him any supporters.

[-] Chriswild@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I'm judging bases on data about ages and death. You're judging bases on feelings from social media.

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[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 12 points 8 months ago

Biden BARELY beat him the first time around and conditions are WORSE this time around:

1: The electorate has a ridiculously short memory and aren't currently suffering from Trump being president.

2: Related to but distinct from 1, Biden's main strategy of "at least I'm not the other guy" is much less effective for an incumbent than a challenger.

3: Biden is currently alienating a large part of his own base by supporting two seperate genocides (Gaza and Yemen), one of which Democrats actually care about even when there's a Dem president.

Don't get me wrong, I REALLY want him to win since he's by far the lesser evil, but for the above reasons and others, there's a significant risk of him actually losing if the traitor isn't disqualified as he should be

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Things are not worse. Life for the average American is significantly better now than it was in 2020. I guess everyone's already forgotten the shambles our society was in during the 2020 election?

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 3 points 8 months ago

I meant that his ELECTION prospects are worse, in part BECAUSE life in general is better and many have forgotten just how awful it used to be.

It's much easier to get elected on "we know he's not the most exciting candidate, but at least he's better than the one ruining your life right now" than on "we know he's been underwhelming but at least he hasn't been catastrophic like the one who used to ruin your life"

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.

[-] Chriswild@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Biden won by nearly 7 million votes with a 62% of votes under 30 years old and 52% under 45 years old.

Actually the only age group he didn't win with was 65+ and they're the ones dropping faster and faster each month.

So you're assuming people will take Trump over Biden because he was involved in genocide when he was involved in 8 years of drone strike champion before he ran in 2020.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 4 points 8 months ago

He won the popular vote by a smaller percentage of votes cast than Hillary and the Dem candidate winning the sub-45yo vote is pretty much a given. In most elections, it would be by much more.

As for the 65+ group, a lot of fascists and people who don't consider fascism more of a deal breaker than a (D) behind a name are aging into that group, perhaps as many as are dying off.

And no, I'm not assuming anything. I'm pointing out that there's a big risk of the pro-democracy candidate losing if he and the rest of the DNC don't stop thinking that "Not Trump" is enough and start listening to what the public wants.

[-] Chriswild@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

I don't know how to explain to you that you just agreed with me.

You agree that young people vote dem

You agree old people are dying off

But you think Dems will be held accountable by voters by electing a worse candidate for them just to spite the Dems? .

People will take the best option they are provided and 2020 had the highest voter turnout since 1900 for sleepy creepy Joe.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 8 months ago

You obviously have a lot more faith in the rationality of voters than I do, in spite of the whole gestures at entire world thing.

In stead of pointing out details, I'm just gonna hope that your faith will be rewarded in a little under 11 months and wish you a nice day.

[-] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"I don't have an argument, but I can't handle being wrong, so I wrote this to ensure the safety of my ego"

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No. I was about to refute their misconceptions point by point but decided it wasn't worth the effort since we're ostensibly on the same side and nothing I or anyone else can say would convince them.

Same with you, it seems, so unless you actually have something to add, I suggest you take your conclusion jumping elsewhere.

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