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Article seems pretty flawed. Relevance is a vague metric, and the author relies pretty heavily on data related to government site visitation, which seems subject to bias toward certain types of users.

Market share is likely still incredibly low, but Firefox's relevance should be spiking right now due to Google's shenanigans with Chromium. The fact that like 90% of revenue for its for-profit wing is from Google is still troubling.

Any alternative views out there?

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[-] rwhitisissle@beehaw.org 197 points 9 months ago

The day Firefox shutters its doors is the day the internet truly dies. Almost every "alternative" browser is chromium under the hood. Google's next big plan is basically constructing a walled garden around the internet (at least the HTTP part) via complex DRM. Eventually, if you want to access an actual web page, it'll have to be via a Chromium browser. Hell, even today a shitload of websites I visit on FF just don't fucking render correctly and I'll have to fire up a chromium instance just to access them. That's only going to get worse with time.

[-] Poggervania@kbin.social 60 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean, you can argue that Google actually has a monopoly on web browsers right now. iirc Firefox takes a ton of money from Google, so if the choices are “Google’s proprietary browser” or “a non-Chromium browser backed by Google” (EDIT: unless you’re on Apple hardware and use Safari), then Google comes out on top either way.

Wish we could get another good browser engine that isn’t Chromium, WebKit, or Quantum.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 66 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ehh

There's a clear difference between accepting money from an entity and letting it control things and make decisions. Pushing for a full and clear separation from any potential conflict of interest (while noble) is how projects die.

I'd love for Firefox to be fully funded through small anonymous public donations in an ideal world. As it is, I don't see an issue from taking Google's money to do something that most users would want anyways.

If the default search wasn't google, I'm certain even more users would bail on Firefox. Anyone who does want an alternative search engine is capable of clicking on it during installation.

[-] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 9 months ago

Firefox might be able to survive on donations, if Mozilla’s CEO stopped giving herself raises

[-] Zworf@beehaw.org 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They don't even want our money. They just let you donate to Mozilla foundation, which does other projects.

Firefox is developed by Mozilla corporation which is funded by the google deal.

I donate to several FOSS projects including monthly to KDE but I won't donate to Mozilla until I can actually make sure my money goes to firefox. And ideally not their overpaid CEO either, no.

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