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[-] AngryMob@lemmy.one 45 points 9 months ago

This should include a user count in each so we can see just how many pedos and nazis are being punted to their own little disgusting bubbles

[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A little correction: while some of pedo instances are full of potential child abusers, others are based on non-offending (i.e. stop fucking children ffs) principles.

The latter are actually extremely important since they provide a gateway for otherwise potentially dangeous individuals to gain support and find professional help. Trying to instead blindly seed hatred towards people with any immutable traits is never productive, be it any mental disorder, sexuality, or otherwise, same as race and gender. In this case, it only prevents pedophiles from seeking help, making them more likely to become the child predator type and actually pose danger to kids.

Being a pedophile is not a choice. Being a Nazi or a child abuser are, and those should fuck themselves (but also reconsider what they do and what they believe in).

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'll play the devil's advocate here. Not supporting or opposing your point of view. Just to add to the discussion. Let's use another extreme: People with a killing spree sexual attraction. I know, I know, it may be not the same, and it's something that doesn't exist (God I hope!) But for the sake of the argument, let's assume it does.

You have this forum of people posting memes about mass killings and frustrations about not being able to kill, but that you would totally never ever kill anyone, even though the urge is there.

What would you think of such community? Would it be a safe one?

(Dear CIA, NSA, FBI agents, the above is just a completely hypothetical scenario. I am a law-abiding citizen. Always have, always will.)

[-] FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

...there is a joke here that I could make about incel forums. I'm not going to try to because it's in poor taste, but my point is that I'm pretty sure that does exist....

Also, what's your actual position if that's your devil's advocate position? I'm a bit unsure if the implication there is intentional or not

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Well, I don't really have a position. I think pedophilia is heinous, but I understand that sexual attraction is not a choice. Would an internet forum be a good and healthy supporting tool for pedophiles making an effort to do the right thing? That's the question I'm trying to answer.

[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Here's something I found on the issue:

https://www.nomos-elibrary.de/10.5771/9783748904403-279.pdf

TL;DR it very much depends on the nature of the platform, but peer support platforms like Virtuous Pedophiles seem to be more good than bad, helping in combating child sexual abuse.

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